I hurt my joint when I was doing an elbow strike on the sandbag what to do to cure it?

I have 2 sand bags and one spped bag in my back yard.I use to do shansoe a branch of kungfu or chinese kick boxing.I now train my self with mixed martial arts.One of my sand bags are tied up and the other one is on the ground.I do gabs,hooks,upper cutts,kicks,knee and elbow strikes.I learned that from watching UFC so i started punching and doing elbow strikes on the sand bag that is on the ground.I did a mestake when i elbowed the sand bag i hit it with my joints and it caused internal bleding[black mark].Even when i bendmy arm or try lifting weights on my tri ceps it hurts.What to do?

I hurt my joint when I was doing an elbow strike on the sandbag what to do to cure it?
See your doctor of course as soon as possible. If you have dizziness, fever, severe pain, or any other odd symptoms don't wait on the doctor but instead go to the emergency room.





Injuries are part of athletics. Proper training can greatly reduce the severity of injuries in the future. That black mark is most likely just a bruise. I am sure you have had bruises before. I would hold off on the ice until you see a doctor unless you have swelling. Trying to practice what you haven't been trained for is what caused this injury in the first place.





If you have to use ice then limit the contact to 10 minutes only. Never apply ice directly to your skin, instead use a cloth of some sort and pay attention to the time or you will end up with frost bite too. I hope you didn't do any permanent damage here, but this is why people are telling you to see a doctor. Injuries will often appear to heal then you have real troubles a few years later.
Reply:Consult immediately ur doctor!!!!
Reply:Sounds like you just bruised it badly. An x-ray will only tell for sure though. In the mean time you can ice your elbow twice a day for about 10 to 15 minutes. You can also rub some tiger balm or other liniment to help with the soreness.
Reply:Try some good dit da jow. It's great for bruises and slight sprains and strains.
Reply:By all means seek medical advice... then realize that maybe you need to learn how to do that stuff properly from someone who knows what their doing!!


I bet you were one of those kids who tied a towel around his sholders and jumped off a roof because he watched a superman movie. You can't learn martial arts from watching something on TV.
Reply:There is a possibility of a few things going on here.





One is just a good ol fashioned bone bruising, (will cause swelling, some discoloration after few days as the blood raises to the surface of the skin.





Second is possibly a compression injury to the joint. More than likely hopefully nothing too serious. As you are still able to use it somewhat, it doesn't sound too bad.





First and foremost, you need to get it under control and get movement back to normal, whether this is a compression injury or just a bruised bone, still the same treatment applies.





RICE.





Rest,


Ice,


Compression,


Elevation.





Rest your elbow, that means no lifting, no heavy exercise, no leaning on it, and definately no hitting anything with it. Take an anti inflammatory such as aspirin, or ibuprofen. Rest the joint.





Ice it down, this reduces swelling and are the first steps in restoring mobility by reducing the swelling in the joint (one of the reasons you can't bend your arm).





Compression: Wrap that bad boy up, it will help with resting as you provide a stable support for it. (Doesn't really help a bone bruise too much, but is good to keep you continously damaging your soft inflammed tissue.





Elevation: When resting or hanging out, try to keep your elbow elevated above your heart, again this will help reduce swelling and get you on the road to restoring mobility.





If you are still experiencing pain and swelling after a week of doing this, you should probably consult a doctor and have them take a look at it.





One thing that will help, is the black mark a few inches away from where it actually hurts? More than likely you are experiencing a deep tissue or bone bruise. As the black mark isn't normally a sign of a compression injury.








Now, is the helpful part.





Sandbags are damn horrible things to be hitting for a ground and pound drill, and you will injure yourself over and over again. Sand compacts, and essentially makes it become like cement, I do not reccomend striking sandbags, as they will hurt you more than help you.





Second,


Don't get me wrong, but essentially you do not do MMA, Sanshou, or kickboxing if you are doing it alone. You need someone to show you how to do these things properly, and additionally you need training partners, sparring partners, etc.





I understand that these things cost money, or you do not have availability for that sort of thing at the moment. But you want to prepare yourself.





But you are not practicing any art by hitting sandbags in your bag yard. You are simply hitting sandbags in your backyard.





Without someone to spar, develop timing and defense, you more than likely will develop bad habits. Additionally without someone to throw, you aren't do Sanshou.





I hate to be a fly in the ointment, but there are people who are dedicate and take this stuff seriously, who would find it insulting that you say your practice Sanshou (when you are spelling it wrong), and would laugh at you when you say you train yourself in MMA.





Now, here is some ways to help you until you are able to get the facilities, ability to pay for, and coaches you need.





First off, forget sandbags. They will seriously screw you up.





Head to walmart, you know those boat cushions or staduim cushions (little square custions about 2 inches thick, for like 1.99 or so) buy you a couple of those. Use the straps to wrap it around a tree may have to use a nail or two, (on the straps, not on the cushion) and put it all on a firm tree. Put them about face level (I suggest two deep for the face level one) and another about thigh level to the side (again two or three deep)





This is essentially your heavy bag, kind of like what Martial Artists call a makiwara, but way safer and will allow you to develop a little power, in addition to bone conditioning somewhat safely.





Next, you can spend about 10 bucks at any sports store and get what is called a "headache bag" this is essentially a bag with a rope on the top and the bottom, that is bungy like in material. It will allow you to develop speed and accuracy.





To practice knees, you actually really need a tear drop bag or a partner. With your boat cushions, you can double them and have them work as Thai pads. If you get a partner you can work some Thai pad drills.





http://stickgrappler.tripod.com/mt/kk17....





http://www.thaiboxing.com/tba-technique2...





Actually Thaiboxing.com has a lot of good information.





I realize actual Thai pads cost money, but you can use a lot of cushioning and you and a partner can work to do better.





All of this will only help you get prepared for actually working out at a place, then prepare to have every strike you do changed and honed. Perhaps changed completely from the bad habits you are already doing.





Without having a real coach to show you, it is very easy to be hitting wrong (not using your hips, etc).





Good luck with your injury man.





Btw, I suggest taking up wrestling at high school, that will seriously help you if you want to actually do Sanshou or MMA. Cung Le credits that as one of his primary reasons for success in Sanshou.





Good luck with all of your training, take it easy on the elbow. For god's sake get rid of the sandbags, those things will have you breaking something soon.





Hope that is of some help, message me if you want any clarification or I can help you find some affordable training in your area.





Best of luck.
Reply:Sounds like you damaged your joint, go to a doctor inmediately!





Don't try just to emulate what you see on TV, as you can't fully see the technique behind the moves, and can potentially damage yourself as you already know.





If you'd like to learn martial arts, join a gym with qualified instructors who will guide you, so you don't injure yourself.
Reply:For some immediate, but probably not substantial relief, take a couple of Advil. It'll help with the inflammation. I hurt my hip last week and didn't think of the Advil till last night. It was like a miracle drug! lol Good luck, and don't be trying to kill sandbags with your elbow anymore.