Any type of style is all right. Is just that I've always been fascinated by the Martial arts and Kung fu is my favorite. Also I'm half chinese and half korean. I've done tkd for over 7 yrs and i have a good extensive knowledge in it's teaching. Furthermore, I thought it be fun and benificial to practice another stye of martial arts in my culture and heritage. Your personal experiences are greatly welcomed. Thank you for your help and time!
Does anyone know a good place to learn chinese kung fu in NYC(Queens and Manhattan)?
http://www.redshift.com/~mjacobi/sch.htm...
hope that is helpful.
San Soo Kung Fu
look it up on the web. It is a military combat style, with all the xtras. Offering;
Tsoi Ga Kick and Punch Style
Li Ga Leverage Style
Ho Ga Psychology of Combat Principle
Fut Ga Pressure Point Style
Hung Ga Power Strength and Body Conditioning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOODS20u...
Reply:Yang Fukui : http://www.xinyiwuguan.com/
Lin Chih-Young : http://masterlins.cfw2.com/page.asp?cont...
These are the only two instructors in NYC that I would recommend.
I studied with Master Lin. He is one of the most knowledgeable Teachers I have ever seen. Read his bio on the second link.
The other teacher is my very close friend's teacher. He is amazing.
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Sunday, April 26, 2009
Why do Chinese middle age/old men walk with their hands behind their backs and head down?
Ive seen alot around, and they all walk like this, they look like the stereotypical martial arts masters in deep meditation, is it to do with Chinese Culture?
Why do Chinese middle age/old men walk with their hands behind their backs and head down?
Humility.
Reply:they are deep in thought
Reply:They're thinking. I don' t know, ask one of them. I sometimes walk with my hands behind my back. I'm neither old or chinese, or a man, but it's just something I do.
Reply:The more they do it, it means how intellegent they are. And they are showing others that they are wise.
Reply:It is only when they stare down at the ground with their hands behind their backs, they can really see the meaning of life.
It's just a stereotype dude, the chinese have to do something to be different!
(I'm part chinese, but my chinese grandfather doesn't do that)
Reply:there could be 2 reasons for that:
Elderly Chinese consider this posture to be impressive
Elderly Chinese are afraid of being kicked in their behind or stepping on a pile of human dung.
make your choice.
Reply:Practising for when they're beheaded.
Reply:They are older than you think. With age your bones will get weak and hollow and your spine will bend. We cant last forever, we all have to detorate and make an exit sometime. Even machines dont last forever, nothing does. The chinese are very strong, they look liket middle age, but they will be 70 or 80 yrs old. You neck too will get weak and your head will be stoping forward. These are all age related which none of us can escape, every one who is luckly enough to live that long will understand it.They should be admired for still getting by and they are still on their feet not bedridden.
Reply:The fear mongering culture of the Communist and cultural revolutions in china depressed individual thought and expression. Those who have moved here are the free thinkers but the mimicking posture to mask individuality was ingrained like a survival instinct. Watch early film of the Communist leaders and you will see where this survival mimicry started.
Reply:Now that you mention it, it does seem to be true. Perhaps part of their culture.
Reply:Just deep in thought, contemplating the tribulations of life, or they just don't want to step on someone spit on the sidewalk.
Reply:hump
Why do Chinese middle age/old men walk with their hands behind their backs and head down?
Humility.
Reply:they are deep in thought
Reply:They're thinking. I don' t know, ask one of them. I sometimes walk with my hands behind my back. I'm neither old or chinese, or a man, but it's just something I do.
Reply:The more they do it, it means how intellegent they are. And they are showing others that they are wise.
Reply:It is only when they stare down at the ground with their hands behind their backs, they can really see the meaning of life.
It's just a stereotype dude, the chinese have to do something to be different!
(I'm part chinese, but my chinese grandfather doesn't do that)
Reply:there could be 2 reasons for that:
Elderly Chinese consider this posture to be impressive
Elderly Chinese are afraid of being kicked in their behind or stepping on a pile of human dung.
make your choice.
Reply:Practising for when they're beheaded.
Reply:They are older than you think. With age your bones will get weak and hollow and your spine will bend. We cant last forever, we all have to detorate and make an exit sometime. Even machines dont last forever, nothing does. The chinese are very strong, they look liket middle age, but they will be 70 or 80 yrs old. You neck too will get weak and your head will be stoping forward. These are all age related which none of us can escape, every one who is luckly enough to live that long will understand it.They should be admired for still getting by and they are still on their feet not bedridden.
Reply:The fear mongering culture of the Communist and cultural revolutions in china depressed individual thought and expression. Those who have moved here are the free thinkers but the mimicking posture to mask individuality was ingrained like a survival instinct. Watch early film of the Communist leaders and you will see where this survival mimicry started.
Reply:Now that you mention it, it does seem to be true. Perhaps part of their culture.
Reply:Just deep in thought, contemplating the tribulations of life, or they just don't want to step on someone spit on the sidewalk.
Reply:hump
Tattoo to commemorate my trip to China, etc?
Hey, I'm wondering if anyone can help me out with some suggestions. I plan on getting a tattoo to commemorate the stage I'm at in my life and what I've learnt so far.
I recently went on a solo trip to China for 3 months and ended up learning so much about who I am, I felt like a different person when I got back. There are a few other important things to me that I'd like to tie in to whatever symbol I choose though. I've trained a chinese martial art for several years now and some of the people I train with are like family to me. I've also recently gotten over a bad experience with a guy...now that it's over though I've realized that even that has given me insight into my own character, so I don't regret it.
Basically, if anyone has any ideas on symbols that could represent:
a) my trip to China
b) my martial art and the family I have through that
c) that what I learnt about myself through the relationship I had that ended badly, was worth it in the end
that'd be awesome!
Tattoo to commemorate my trip to China, etc?
Cherry Blossoms are common, but if you make alterations to the color and design (not to the flower itself, but the shape of the tattoo), I'm pretty sure you could manipulate it to meaning what you like. Tigers, geishas, words, scrolls, etc. are also good.
Reply:pain and suffering
is worth while??
in chinese?
Reply:I'm sorry, I usually don't like to criticize people but that whole idea of tattoo/china/martial arts/relationship turned bad then turned good sounds really corny and kind of cheesy.
I recently went on a solo trip to China for 3 months and ended up learning so much about who I am, I felt like a different person when I got back. There are a few other important things to me that I'd like to tie in to whatever symbol I choose though. I've trained a chinese martial art for several years now and some of the people I train with are like family to me. I've also recently gotten over a bad experience with a guy...now that it's over though I've realized that even that has given me insight into my own character, so I don't regret it.
Basically, if anyone has any ideas on symbols that could represent:
a) my trip to China
b) my martial art and the family I have through that
c) that what I learnt about myself through the relationship I had that ended badly, was worth it in the end
that'd be awesome!
Tattoo to commemorate my trip to China, etc?
Cherry Blossoms are common, but if you make alterations to the color and design (not to the flower itself, but the shape of the tattoo), I'm pretty sure you could manipulate it to meaning what you like. Tigers, geishas, words, scrolls, etc. are also good.
Reply:pain and suffering
is worth while??
in chinese?
Reply:I'm sorry, I usually don't like to criticize people but that whole idea of tattoo/china/martial arts/relationship turned bad then turned good sounds really corny and kind of cheesy.
Why do Chinese girls like to marry white people? Sorry i dont want to be racist just curious question.?
iam half spanish and half irish.Sorry my favorite food is Chinese and my favorite's martial arts actor is Jackie Chan.
Anyways i was trying to set up a blind date with my best friend Sarah Fong . I told her on the date he was black. And she jsut walked away. She said next time i want white man only. I said why not Chinese shes like no there cheap and disrespect women? hh I was thinking of dating this Chinese dude but because of sarah iam having second thoughts.
Why do Chinese girls like to marry white people? Sorry i dont want to be racist just curious question.?
all girls have different tastes. not all chinese girls prefer white people, there are happy chinese woman out there who are just fine with their chinese husband! and don't have second thoughts on dating that chinese guy just because of what ur friend said! chinese guys can be very great and caring too!!!
Reply:chinese girls dont like white people, white people have asian fetishes
Ps the chinese food you eat is not real chinese, and you may not be racist but your statement is ignorant as hell
Reply:Maybe just maybe white guys like Asian girls.....
it works both ways............
Reply:Well she just sterio types people...dont listen to her, just be mindful tho cuz dats wat i herd.....GOOD LUCK w/ur date...HAVE FUN!!
Reply:Maybe she has a certain taste. Plus people generalize people through race sometimes when it comes to dating. I'm sure theres chinese guys out there who aren't cheap and disrespectful. Im sure theres white guys out there who are.
Tell her to stop generalizing people by race. Its a horrible way on living.
Reply:can you say "Mail Order Bride" and can you say "Immigration Marriage"?
Reply:thats not reli the case,its like saying every chinese person thinks that a chinese guy is disrespectful etc when, however, if you were to go to china you would see loads of chinese people married to chinese people. I no some chinese people and none of them are married to white people.
And if u think about it, chinese people are white too.....
Reply:I have a lot of Chinese guy friends. I never noticed any of these traits in American born Chinese men. They are very generous and kind. I think this may be a stereo type but don't believe it. However I don't know any Chinese men from China if that is what your friend is talking about then I have no input on that.
Reply:If that's so true, then I would see less Chinese population in the world. But I don't, so how true is your assessment? This is just another groundless feeble attempt at spreading propaganda.
Reply:There's nothing wrong with Chinese guys. It's all personal preference based on bias and stereotypes.
Reply:lol...wow I dont know what to say... it all depends on the person, maybe sarah just dont want to date black men, but I have seen plenty of black/chinese couples...
it all depends on what you like.
Reply:Welcome to the reality of the cultural and ethnic battlefield in the arena of love. For White-men, the mostly quiet and seemingly submissive Oriental Woman, trim and physically healthy oriental woman by the way are extremely attractive.
For Oriental woman, it is the same with almost all the minority races of woman, the woman find the secular world of White Males excludes to some extent the sexist, racial prejudice and economic bullying that is part and parcel of the more traditionally bond minority populations.
The more traditional worlds of the Asia, Latin and African Americans hold the males in higher regard, and frankly on a pedestal, than the men in the white secular world hold the woman in general.
The White-males are beginning to consider woman as naturally equal to men which is one quality that attracts Asia woman to while males.
Reply:Asian women always chasing after white men and thats all they want is white men
Reply:what does marriage have to do with your friend dating that person? why dont you date him, and then a chinese guy, and then a spanish guy, irish, german, italian etc... and get back to us about it. and tell me, why do you only want to marry chinese dudes?
Reply:lol, you cant judge the whole lot of us just because of one friend.
Reply:Flirty G, i understand that you're just curious,
and i apologies if some of our people being not cool,
im a Chinese,
and im telling you your friend is just SOME girl..
someone who loves for a reason, (in her case, ethnicity?)
but not all Chinese people are like her,
most of us love coz he or she is the one..
i personally dont pick,
i love boys as well as girls, so?
gender cannot stop me when i meet the right one.
i love Japanese as well as Chinese, so?
the feud between our fathers cannot make me love you any less
i love black, brown as well as white, so?
the color of eyes cannot block the sparks between us.
i wish this could win your good impression of Chinese back to you, have a nice day XDXD..
Reply:That Sarah is obviously a loser that hates herself. Don't try to set her up with anyone she doesn't deserve it.
Reply:maybe because they wanna a mixed blood kid!1
Reply:penis envy
Reply:cause white people rule the world
asian people own all the rice
black people have the biggest d***s
thats why
Reply:americans have big penis
Reply:I think it's because their tiny diagonal vaginas can't handle a black man's penis.
Reply:Here in New York more Chinese are marrying black men and less white. A man that's my dad's friend works in the mall says that he see's chinese with blacks everyday. So I think that there are places that chinese like white and there are places where there are chinese that like blacks.
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Anyways i was trying to set up a blind date with my best friend Sarah Fong . I told her on the date he was black. And she jsut walked away. She said next time i want white man only. I said why not Chinese shes like no there cheap and disrespect women? hh I was thinking of dating this Chinese dude but because of sarah iam having second thoughts.
Why do Chinese girls like to marry white people? Sorry i dont want to be racist just curious question.?
all girls have different tastes. not all chinese girls prefer white people, there are happy chinese woman out there who are just fine with their chinese husband! and don't have second thoughts on dating that chinese guy just because of what ur friend said! chinese guys can be very great and caring too!!!
Reply:chinese girls dont like white people, white people have asian fetishes
Ps the chinese food you eat is not real chinese, and you may not be racist but your statement is ignorant as hell
Reply:Maybe just maybe white guys like Asian girls.....
it works both ways............
Reply:Well she just sterio types people...dont listen to her, just be mindful tho cuz dats wat i herd.....GOOD LUCK w/ur date...HAVE FUN!!
Reply:Maybe she has a certain taste. Plus people generalize people through race sometimes when it comes to dating. I'm sure theres chinese guys out there who aren't cheap and disrespectful. Im sure theres white guys out there who are.
Tell her to stop generalizing people by race. Its a horrible way on living.
Reply:can you say "Mail Order Bride" and can you say "Immigration Marriage"?
Reply:thats not reli the case,its like saying every chinese person thinks that a chinese guy is disrespectful etc when, however, if you were to go to china you would see loads of chinese people married to chinese people. I no some chinese people and none of them are married to white people.
And if u think about it, chinese people are white too.....
Reply:I have a lot of Chinese guy friends. I never noticed any of these traits in American born Chinese men. They are very generous and kind. I think this may be a stereo type but don't believe it. However I don't know any Chinese men from China if that is what your friend is talking about then I have no input on that.
Reply:If that's so true, then I would see less Chinese population in the world. But I don't, so how true is your assessment? This is just another groundless feeble attempt at spreading propaganda.
Reply:There's nothing wrong with Chinese guys. It's all personal preference based on bias and stereotypes.
Reply:lol...wow I dont know what to say... it all depends on the person, maybe sarah just dont want to date black men, but I have seen plenty of black/chinese couples...
it all depends on what you like.
Reply:Welcome to the reality of the cultural and ethnic battlefield in the arena of love. For White-men, the mostly quiet and seemingly submissive Oriental Woman, trim and physically healthy oriental woman by the way are extremely attractive.
For Oriental woman, it is the same with almost all the minority races of woman, the woman find the secular world of White Males excludes to some extent the sexist, racial prejudice and economic bullying that is part and parcel of the more traditionally bond minority populations.
The more traditional worlds of the Asia, Latin and African Americans hold the males in higher regard, and frankly on a pedestal, than the men in the white secular world hold the woman in general.
The White-males are beginning to consider woman as naturally equal to men which is one quality that attracts Asia woman to while males.
Reply:Asian women always chasing after white men and thats all they want is white men
Reply:what does marriage have to do with your friend dating that person? why dont you date him, and then a chinese guy, and then a spanish guy, irish, german, italian etc... and get back to us about it. and tell me, why do you only want to marry chinese dudes?
Reply:lol, you cant judge the whole lot of us just because of one friend.
Reply:Flirty G, i understand that you're just curious,
and i apologies if some of our people being not cool,
im a Chinese,
and im telling you your friend is just SOME girl..
someone who loves for a reason, (in her case, ethnicity?)
but not all Chinese people are like her,
most of us love coz he or she is the one..
i personally dont pick,
i love boys as well as girls, so?
gender cannot stop me when i meet the right one.
i love Japanese as well as Chinese, so?
the feud between our fathers cannot make me love you any less
i love black, brown as well as white, so?
the color of eyes cannot block the sparks between us.
i wish this could win your good impression of Chinese back to you, have a nice day XDXD..
Reply:That Sarah is obviously a loser that hates herself. Don't try to set her up with anyone she doesn't deserve it.
Reply:maybe because they wanna a mixed blood kid!1
Reply:penis envy
Reply:cause white people rule the world
asian people own all the rice
black people have the biggest d***s
thats why
Reply:americans have big penis
Reply:I think it's because their tiny diagonal vaginas can't handle a black man's penis.
Reply:Here in New York more Chinese are marrying black men and less white. A man that's my dad's friend works in the mall says that he see's chinese with blacks everyday. So I think that there are places that chinese like white and there are places where there are chinese that like blacks.
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Tao says dont resist, dont use force. Putting this into psychology, I dont see how we can improve ourselves?
I recently learnt about Tai-Chi, a Chinese martial arts which says dont use resistance or force against your opponent. I have tried to apply the same in psychology and found out a similar thing. The subconscious bounces back the efforts of conscious if you force things onto subconscious. Then how do we make any real progress without forcing ourselves. Do we have to let fate choose what we are? I observed that, to acheive something I had to force myself, though I sometimes give up. But without force I absolutely dont see how I can improve myself?
Tao says dont resist, dont use force. Putting this into psychology, I dont see how we can improve ourselves?
Let's say there's You, and there's an Opponent. IF you want to improve yourself, why do you have to fight or resist a force which is NOT in you, namely, the opponent?
This is how you do it: There's you on one side, and your opponent on the other side. You improve yourself in the middle. don't take sides, use them. Find your balance between them.
The Mandarin term "tai chi chuan" literally translates as "supreme ultimate fist" or "boundless fist," but may better translate to "great extremes boxing," with an emphasis on finding balance between two great extremes.
Good luck!
Reply:You got it. Good for you. One day, when you conquer them, you will see that they were actually your friends. By the way, I assure you I don't want to scare you, but in reality, they are infinite, not just two. And yes, they're all very friendly!0!
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Reply:Absolutely right. Sometimes we have to force an issue onto ourselves, thus onto our subconscious and it will create quite an internal shiitstorm. Abject passivity is a nice concept when you're stoned on opium, but in real life you have to use force all the time, even to shovel snow or cut up carrots for dinner. And sometimes you have to boot someone in the backside to get them moving.
I used a chainsaw for a couple of hours yesterday. Those limbs weren't coming down by me accepting them philosophically.
Reply:Force is also another word for energy. Force isn't a bad thing, in that way. And you do use energy whenever you accomplish something. I think it would be interesting to think more about why you aren't supposed to use force against your enemy. I'll bet there is something to learn there.
Reply:Totally dependent upon your definitions of "improve" and "progress".
Reply:Live only in your conscious self..it is what matters. What you think ultimately drives how you act.
Reply:Perhaps it is because you are unwilling to accept that you are what you are.
Tao says dont resist, dont use force. Putting this into psychology, I dont see how we can improve ourselves?
Let's say there's You, and there's an Opponent. IF you want to improve yourself, why do you have to fight or resist a force which is NOT in you, namely, the opponent?
This is how you do it: There's you on one side, and your opponent on the other side. You improve yourself in the middle. don't take sides, use them. Find your balance between them.
The Mandarin term "tai chi chuan" literally translates as "supreme ultimate fist" or "boundless fist," but may better translate to "great extremes boxing," with an emphasis on finding balance between two great extremes.
Good luck!
Reply:You got it. Good for you. One day, when you conquer them, you will see that they were actually your friends. By the way, I assure you I don't want to scare you, but in reality, they are infinite, not just two. And yes, they're all very friendly!0!
Good luck! Report It
Reply:Absolutely right. Sometimes we have to force an issue onto ourselves, thus onto our subconscious and it will create quite an internal shiitstorm. Abject passivity is a nice concept when you're stoned on opium, but in real life you have to use force all the time, even to shovel snow or cut up carrots for dinner. And sometimes you have to boot someone in the backside to get them moving.
I used a chainsaw for a couple of hours yesterday. Those limbs weren't coming down by me accepting them philosophically.
Reply:Force is also another word for energy. Force isn't a bad thing, in that way. And you do use energy whenever you accomplish something. I think it would be interesting to think more about why you aren't supposed to use force against your enemy. I'll bet there is something to learn there.
Reply:Totally dependent upon your definitions of "improve" and "progress".
Reply:Live only in your conscious self..it is what matters. What you think ultimately drives how you act.
Reply:Perhaps it is because you are unwilling to accept that you are what you are.
What is the standard plot to a classic kung-fu movie?
When I speak of 'classic' I mean Chinese Martial Arts films set back in ancient times (no guns or anything). Shaw Bro's or that era (which I never really saw)...
What is the standard plot to a classic kung-fu movie?
Great Kung Fu Master
Takes on weak %26amp; unworthy student
That student becomes greatest student
Master gets killed
Greatest student avenges master's murder
Greatest student becomes master
Repeat
Reply:romance and revenge
Reply:from the ones i have seen myself revenge is the biggest followed by good vs. evil
Reply:Protagonist's loved ones (Relatives, Lovers, spouses, Master) got killed. Protagonist seek Revenge.
The most common
What is the standard plot to a classic kung-fu movie?
Great Kung Fu Master
Takes on weak %26amp; unworthy student
That student becomes greatest student
Master gets killed
Greatest student avenges master's murder
Greatest student becomes master
Repeat
Reply:romance and revenge
Reply:from the ones i have seen myself revenge is the biggest followed by good vs. evil
Reply:Protagonist's loved ones (Relatives, Lovers, spouses, Master) got killed. Protagonist seek Revenge.
The most common
What is a good stretching plan to do the splits?
I'm a teenager and I'm training in gymnastics and Chinese martial arts. Both require flexibility. What kinds of stretches should I do to be able to do splits (front and side)? How many times a week should I stretch? How long should I hold each stretch without over-stretching?
What is a good stretching plan to do the splits?
Check out a book called "Stretching Scientifically" -- http://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Scienti... It reinforces the use of dynamic stretching as a means of gaining flexibility for martial arts kicks, and its writer, Thomas Kurz, documents how his stretching regimen helped him become able to do a split. In fact, the book contains photos of him doing splits supported only by chairs beneath his ankles... and there are similar photos of people who followed his advice and could do splits as well.
Basic dynamic stretches (much more detail in the book):
• Front stretch: stand in a forward stance with left leg forward. Swing the right leg up to the front as high as you can and return it to starting position. Be sure to keep the leg locked straight the entire time and use control when lowering the leg (instead of just using gravity). Repeat 10 times, then switch legs.
• Back stretch: stand in a forward stance with left leg forward. Swing the right leg back as high as you can and return it to starting position. Be sure to keep the leg locked straight the entire time and use control when lowering the leg. Repeat 10 times, then switch legs.
• Side stretch: stand in a resting stance, legs shoulder width apart. Swing the right leg up to the side as high as you can and return it to starting position. Be sure to keep the leg locked straight the entire time and use control when lowering the leg. Repeat 10 times, then switch legs.
Thomas, Kurz, the author, suggests that people do at least 15 minutes of dynamic stretching in the morning and then again in the evening every day to start seeing results. Hope this helps!
Reply:What Annamomof said is spot on. Kurtz ' "stretching scientifically" book and video did it for me. I am able to front and side split at 49yrs of age because of it. In a nutshell ; do dynamic stretching (leg raises) very early in the morning (roll straight out of bed). Then isometric stretching later (where you stretch out and hold tension for 10 sec relax, stretch out some more, tension etc. By flexing the stretched muscle it sends some message to the motorneurons etc that inhibit flexibility. Lots of mumbo jumbo... but it does build strength and flexibilty.
Reply:I would recommend practicing yoga on the side. It really helps with that. Also, I take shaolin-do and they teach really good stretch techniques. i can't give good descriptions online, though.
However, I can say that there are intensive and extensive stretching methods.
Intensive is where you do these really effective stretch techniques (often requiring class/partner)
Extensive is where you sit in a stretching position (like splits or whatever) while you watch TV.
Hope this helps.
Reply:http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php...
use it!
What is a good stretching plan to do the splits?
Check out a book called "Stretching Scientifically" -- http://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Scienti... It reinforces the use of dynamic stretching as a means of gaining flexibility for martial arts kicks, and its writer, Thomas Kurz, documents how his stretching regimen helped him become able to do a split. In fact, the book contains photos of him doing splits supported only by chairs beneath his ankles... and there are similar photos of people who followed his advice and could do splits as well.
Basic dynamic stretches (much more detail in the book):
• Front stretch: stand in a forward stance with left leg forward. Swing the right leg up to the front as high as you can and return it to starting position. Be sure to keep the leg locked straight the entire time and use control when lowering the leg (instead of just using gravity). Repeat 10 times, then switch legs.
• Back stretch: stand in a forward stance with left leg forward. Swing the right leg back as high as you can and return it to starting position. Be sure to keep the leg locked straight the entire time and use control when lowering the leg. Repeat 10 times, then switch legs.
• Side stretch: stand in a resting stance, legs shoulder width apart. Swing the right leg up to the side as high as you can and return it to starting position. Be sure to keep the leg locked straight the entire time and use control when lowering the leg. Repeat 10 times, then switch legs.
Thomas, Kurz, the author, suggests that people do at least 15 minutes of dynamic stretching in the morning and then again in the evening every day to start seeing results. Hope this helps!
Reply:What Annamomof said is spot on. Kurtz ' "stretching scientifically" book and video did it for me. I am able to front and side split at 49yrs of age because of it. In a nutshell ; do dynamic stretching (leg raises) very early in the morning (roll straight out of bed). Then isometric stretching later (where you stretch out and hold tension for 10 sec relax, stretch out some more, tension etc. By flexing the stretched muscle it sends some message to the motorneurons etc that inhibit flexibility. Lots of mumbo jumbo... but it does build strength and flexibilty.
Reply:I would recommend practicing yoga on the side. It really helps with that. Also, I take shaolin-do and they teach really good stretch techniques. i can't give good descriptions online, though.
However, I can say that there are intensive and extensive stretching methods.
Intensive is where you do these really effective stretch techniques (often requiring class/partner)
Extensive is where you sit in a stretching position (like splits or whatever) while you watch TV.
Hope this helps.
Reply:http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php...
use it!
Hung Gar in Morocco?
This is a style of Traditional Chinese Martial arts and so far haven't found anything on the internet.
Hung Gar in Morocco?
Never heard about it.
Most of the martial arts clubs in Morocco are offering classical lessons in Karate, Judo Aikido,..
Reply:Never heard of it; if you are some master of this kind of martial arts, why don't you come here and teach us.
Reply:try http://www.wikipedia.org
azalea
Hung Gar in Morocco?
Never heard about it.
Most of the martial arts clubs in Morocco are offering classical lessons in Karate, Judo Aikido,..
Reply:Never heard of it; if you are some master of this kind of martial arts, why don't you come here and teach us.
Reply:try http://www.wikipedia.org
azalea
Can you give me tips to improve wushu in just 1 week or 2 weeks?
Wushu an chinese martial arts.
Can you give me tips to improve wushu in just 1 week or 2 weeks?
1. always keep your feet on the floor. even a small heel lifted up 1 cm is unacceptable unless you are performing aerial stunts (since its wushu that is impractical in real life)
2. when performing, never smile or look down. looknig down or all around shows you are confused or making ur ur doing the form or performance right (this is unproffesional)
3. on the last hit or the one that seems most powerful, yell a loud HA!!!! to show your aggresion and power.
4. stay relaxed. this will make u look like you are generating power in a way that seems simple in someone elses eye.
5. stretch a lot. as in splits and the waist. doing the splits will increase flexibility. by practicing daily, u will eventually be able to do it (im able to) but it will take a lot of determination. power is generated in the waist and legs. the waist will generate the most power.
6. horse stance daily for 30 seconds to 5 minutes. in all stances, bow/arrow/ keep your foot on the floor. in the horse stance keep your feet parallel like a street.
7. conditioning. punch the heavy bag but make sure u only hit it with the top two knuckles and wear gloves. also roundhouse kick the bag to condition the shins.
8. use dit da jow (chinese healing ointment) for all pains and rest off whenever sore in any manner.
Can you give me tips to improve wushu in just 1 week or 2 weeks?
1. always keep your feet on the floor. even a small heel lifted up 1 cm is unacceptable unless you are performing aerial stunts (since its wushu that is impractical in real life)
2. when performing, never smile or look down. looknig down or all around shows you are confused or making ur ur doing the form or performance right (this is unproffesional)
3. on the last hit or the one that seems most powerful, yell a loud HA!!!! to show your aggresion and power.
4. stay relaxed. this will make u look like you are generating power in a way that seems simple in someone elses eye.
5. stretch a lot. as in splits and the waist. doing the splits will increase flexibility. by practicing daily, u will eventually be able to do it (im able to) but it will take a lot of determination. power is generated in the waist and legs. the waist will generate the most power.
6. horse stance daily for 30 seconds to 5 minutes. in all stances, bow/arrow/ keep your foot on the floor. in the horse stance keep your feet parallel like a street.
7. conditioning. punch the heavy bag but make sure u only hit it with the top two knuckles and wear gloves. also roundhouse kick the bag to condition the shins.
8. use dit da jow (chinese healing ointment) for all pains and rest off whenever sore in any manner.
Is there anyone who practices Hung Gar in Morocco?
This is a style of Traditional Chinese Martial arts and so far haven't found anything on the internet.
Is there anyone who practices Hung Gar in Morocco?
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Is there anyone who practices Hung Gar in Morocco?
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In the anime kenichi, what kind of fighting style(s) is hermit (6th fist aka natsu nanimoto) using?
i know its a combination of chinese martial arts of some sorts but which?
In the anime kenichi, what kind of fighting style(s) is hermit (6th fist aka natsu nanimoto) using?
He is using martal arts
In the anime kenichi, what kind of fighting style(s) is hermit (6th fist aka natsu nanimoto) using?
He is using martal arts
What are the most external kung fu/wushu styles?
Interested in the most external CMA, Chinese martial arts. Wanted opinions on the overall most effective or most external styles.
Thanks to all serious answers in advance.
What are the most external kung fu/wushu styles?
Hun Gar
San Shou
Choy Lay Fut
Wing Chun
Reply:I would say hung gar
lily
Thanks to all serious answers in advance.
What are the most external kung fu/wushu styles?
Hun Gar
San Shou
Choy Lay Fut
Wing Chun
Reply:I would say hung gar
lily
Questions on Kung Fu.?
Hello, whenever I look at info on Chinese Martial arts they mention styles like Drunken Monkey(:D Sorry just had too) , Eagle Claw or N.;S. Praying Mantis. If one took Kung Fu lessons do they teach all of these styles or what? Thanks for the info.
Questions on Kung Fu.?
Most Kwoons (Chinese Martial Arts School) specialise in one form, or another depending on where the Sifu (Father Teacher) was taught, and whom taught him. Please research Chinese Kung Fu further by the links offered on google, and yahoo, then research further whichever one art interests you the most. The fighters will is 90 percent of the fighter, kung fu the other 10.
lr
http://www.wingchunassociation.com
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Reply:No they do not teach all styles at one Kung Fu school. There are many different Kung Fu styles and it would important to ask the Sifu what style he teaches and what the origin is.
Reply:Kung Fu 101
Day 1 -- Lesson 1
Repeat after me: HIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE-YA!
Very good. Class dismissed.
Sensei Zonk
Reply:Kung fu schools usually focus on one specific style (Eagle Claw, Drunken Monkey, Praying Mantis, etc). There are some styles that are amalgamations of multiple styles (Choy Lee Fut %26amp; Hung Gar are two of those). It is rare to find a school whre mare than one style is taught, although there are some with multiple instructors, each one teaching a different style.
Reply:Ok...NOO! They are all different styles and any self proclaimed master telling you that he can teach you more than 2 would probably be winging it for the money.
Besides, all those style that were fabricated after any sort of animals or insects are for pure show although you would still get a lot of exercise out of it.
Thanks to capitalism and the opening of china, now you can learn genuin Shaolin kung fu without being a monk forever. Check it out.
Reply:There are many styles of Kung Fu. Often, a school will focus on one or two, but I've known a few schools that taught as many as five styles. I'd be careful of schools like that: "jack of all trades, master of none" tends to be the way it goes. Some schools will have a basic curriculum of one style, with "advanced techniques" taken from another style. For example, in my school our basic curriculum is Northern Shaolin Long Fist, but students who are ahead of their peers can learn Praying Mantis Techniques.
Of course, it can get difficult sometimes to distinguish systems. Again, in my own school, the basic forms that we learn are the 12 road Tan Tui set, a four road form, then a hard form, and two softer forms. In some schools, the 12 road Tan Tui set is a complete system with nothing else. Consequently, some would consider that a complete system by itself, which would mean we learn three systems at my school: Tan Tui, Shaolin, and Praying Mantis. But the Tan Tui techniques are so similar to Long Fist techniques that it's not worth noting the difference.
Then there's the Five Animals and the Twelve Animals systems of Kung Fu: do you consider those five/twelve systems taught at the same school, or single system with five/twelve sets of techniques?
Reply:Probably not, so if you must choose one id take my style, Jade Tiger style. It uses alot of upper body strikes and blocks, with some nice kicks mixed in. Also as for weapons we use Nunchaku[nunchucks],some use throwing stars, bo staffs, kamas, pudaos,bokken [wooden samurai swords] and katanas.
Good luck , hope i helped you.
Reply:No most Kwoons (schools) teach mainly one Discipline, but some will teach two or more disciplines.
it's not an unheard of practice to study or teach more than one Kung Fu discipline.
Questions on Kung Fu.?
Most Kwoons (Chinese Martial Arts School) specialise in one form, or another depending on where the Sifu (Father Teacher) was taught, and whom taught him. Please research Chinese Kung Fu further by the links offered on google, and yahoo, then research further whichever one art interests you the most. The fighters will is 90 percent of the fighter, kung fu the other 10.
lr
http://www.wingchunassociation.com
http://www.pacificwingchunassociation.co...
Reply:No they do not teach all styles at one Kung Fu school. There are many different Kung Fu styles and it would important to ask the Sifu what style he teaches and what the origin is.
Reply:Kung Fu 101
Day 1 -- Lesson 1
Repeat after me: HIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE-YA!
Very good. Class dismissed.
Sensei Zonk
Reply:Kung fu schools usually focus on one specific style (Eagle Claw, Drunken Monkey, Praying Mantis, etc). There are some styles that are amalgamations of multiple styles (Choy Lee Fut %26amp; Hung Gar are two of those). It is rare to find a school whre mare than one style is taught, although there are some with multiple instructors, each one teaching a different style.
Reply:Ok...NOO! They are all different styles and any self proclaimed master telling you that he can teach you more than 2 would probably be winging it for the money.
Besides, all those style that were fabricated after any sort of animals or insects are for pure show although you would still get a lot of exercise out of it.
Thanks to capitalism and the opening of china, now you can learn genuin Shaolin kung fu without being a monk forever. Check it out.
Reply:There are many styles of Kung Fu. Often, a school will focus on one or two, but I've known a few schools that taught as many as five styles. I'd be careful of schools like that: "jack of all trades, master of none" tends to be the way it goes. Some schools will have a basic curriculum of one style, with "advanced techniques" taken from another style. For example, in my school our basic curriculum is Northern Shaolin Long Fist, but students who are ahead of their peers can learn Praying Mantis Techniques.
Of course, it can get difficult sometimes to distinguish systems. Again, in my own school, the basic forms that we learn are the 12 road Tan Tui set, a four road form, then a hard form, and two softer forms. In some schools, the 12 road Tan Tui set is a complete system with nothing else. Consequently, some would consider that a complete system by itself, which would mean we learn three systems at my school: Tan Tui, Shaolin, and Praying Mantis. But the Tan Tui techniques are so similar to Long Fist techniques that it's not worth noting the difference.
Then there's the Five Animals and the Twelve Animals systems of Kung Fu: do you consider those five/twelve systems taught at the same school, or single system with five/twelve sets of techniques?
Reply:Probably not, so if you must choose one id take my style, Jade Tiger style. It uses alot of upper body strikes and blocks, with some nice kicks mixed in. Also as for weapons we use Nunchaku[nunchucks],some use throwing stars, bo staffs, kamas, pudaos,bokken [wooden samurai swords] and katanas.
Good luck , hope i helped you.
Reply:No most Kwoons (schools) teach mainly one Discipline, but some will teach two or more disciplines.
it's not an unheard of practice to study or teach more than one Kung Fu discipline.
Does anyone know about Bak Mei?
Relates to Chinese martial arts
Does anyone know about Bak Mei?
Some say he was not a Shaolin monk but a Taoist priest. Some say he was a shaolin monk. Either way, he was infamous for betraying the Shaolin temple and killed many monks.
The Bak Mei style is a very deadly kung fu style. Because of that, I doubt if just anyone is going to be taught it. A responsible teacher must carefully screen his prospective students if they are to be taught Bak Mei kung fu.
Reply:Yep, screened students, I know my Grand Master doesnt allow negative or bully like people to stay long. Report It
Reply:History of Bak Mei should be closely investigated, not to follow old myths or legends that are mere stories. Bak Mei creed stipulates strong discretion toward selection of students. Report It
Reply:http://www.bakmei.com/Whatis.html
According to this site, it is an ancient form of Kung Fu that combines both Taoist and Shao Lin principles in a lethal fighting style that is traditionally passed directly from teacher to student.
Reply:Bak Mei (Chinese: 白眉, literally White Eyebrows; also known as Pai Mei, Pei Mei, Bai Mei, Pak Mei) is said to have been one of the legendary Five Elders — survivors of the destruction of the Shaolin Temple by the Qing Dynasty imperial regime (1644–1912) — who, according to some accounts, betrayed Shaolin to the imperial government. He shares his name with the Southern Chinese martial art attributed to him.
Does anyone know about Bak Mei?
Some say he was not a Shaolin monk but a Taoist priest. Some say he was a shaolin monk. Either way, he was infamous for betraying the Shaolin temple and killed many monks.
The Bak Mei style is a very deadly kung fu style. Because of that, I doubt if just anyone is going to be taught it. A responsible teacher must carefully screen his prospective students if they are to be taught Bak Mei kung fu.
Reply:Yep, screened students, I know my Grand Master doesnt allow negative or bully like people to stay long. Report It
Reply:History of Bak Mei should be closely investigated, not to follow old myths or legends that are mere stories. Bak Mei creed stipulates strong discretion toward selection of students. Report It
Reply:http://www.bakmei.com/Whatis.html
According to this site, it is an ancient form of Kung Fu that combines both Taoist and Shao Lin principles in a lethal fighting style that is traditionally passed directly from teacher to student.
Reply:Bak Mei (Chinese: 白眉, literally White Eyebrows; also known as Pai Mei, Pei Mei, Bai Mei, Pak Mei) is said to have been one of the legendary Five Elders — survivors of the destruction of the Shaolin Temple by the Qing Dynasty imperial regime (1644–1912) — who, according to some accounts, betrayed Shaolin to the imperial government. He shares his name with the Southern Chinese martial art attributed to him.
What's the boxer rebellion???
has something to do with chinese martial arts
What's the boxer rebellion???
A "Boxer" was a member of a secret society in China (The Righteous Harmonious Fists) that in 1900 tried to drive foreigners from the country and force Chinese Christians to renounce their religion. They were put down by an alliance of imperial powers including the United States and Great Britain.
Reply:Empress Dowager Tsu Hsi was gullible *tsk tsk*
Reply:It was a rebellion by the Chinese against the British colonials.
Reply:The Boxer Uprising (Traditional Chinese: 義和團起義; Simplified Chinese: 义和团起义; Hanyu Pinyin: Yìhétuán Qǐyì; The Righteous and Harmonious Fists) or Boxer Rebellion (義和團之亂 or 義和團匪亂) was a violent movement against non-Chinese commercial, political, religious and technological influence in China during the final years of the 19th century, from November 1899 to September 7, 1901[1]. By August 1900 over 230 foreigners, thousands of Chinese Christians, an unknown number of rebels, their sympathizers and other Chinese were killed in the revolt and its suppression.
What's the boxer rebellion???
A "Boxer" was a member of a secret society in China (The Righteous Harmonious Fists) that in 1900 tried to drive foreigners from the country and force Chinese Christians to renounce their religion. They were put down by an alliance of imperial powers including the United States and Great Britain.
Reply:Empress Dowager Tsu Hsi was gullible *tsk tsk*
Reply:It was a rebellion by the Chinese against the British colonials.
Reply:The Boxer Uprising (Traditional Chinese: 義和團起義; Simplified Chinese: 义和团起义; Hanyu Pinyin: Yìhétuán Qǐyì; The Righteous and Harmonious Fists) or Boxer Rebellion (義和團之亂 or 義和團匪亂) was a violent movement against non-Chinese commercial, political, religious and technological influence in China during the final years of the 19th century, from November 1899 to September 7, 1901[1]. By August 1900 over 230 foreigners, thousands of Chinese Christians, an unknown number of rebels, their sympathizers and other Chinese were killed in the revolt and its suppression.
Why did Samurai love their swords so much?
Why were they so pasionate about the Katana so much that they put it before any other fighting style or weapon? In Chinese martial arts, the sword is just an extention of your hand, Kung Fu teaches you to use any weapon you might find on th battlefield, so how come Samurai were so obssesed with their swords, what made a Katana so precious to them.
And also, i knwo that not all Samurai knew Jujitsu, so what would happen if a Samurai was disarmed? A shiaolin would still be able to fight. Why didn't the Samurai ever think of that?
Why did Samurai love their swords so much?
Why does a person love their pet so much they would die to save it?
we each have what are our priorities and what is important to us in life and to the Samuraii their Katana were as sacred to them as the Horse were to the Commances and or the Huns.
When they did not have their Katina to use they usually still had the Wakisashi and or Tanto where the first was preferred for indoor sword combat for its size.
it is just their personal devotion and faith that made them that way as any one is with something they are that passionate over.
Reply:it was (is) a symbol of honor that is taken very seriously.
Reply:The sword was there only friend.
Reply:They did. I'm not sure where you got your idea that the sword was the end-all-be-all to the samurai to the exclusion of all else. That simply isn't true. The sword was a primary weapon, the most efficient, potent, and practical, but not the only one that the samurai trained with, and they did train in unarmed combat as well.
The samurai practiced the katana, wakazashi, tanto, naginata, chigiriki, yumi, bo, yari, kusarigama, etc., as well as various unarmed techniques called "torite kogusoku" or "kogusoku koshi no mawari" or "kumiuchi" (the name jujitsu didn't come along until the 1600's) and kempo learned from their trade contact with the Chinese. A samurai had to be well rounded to be an effective soldier, but no one can master everything so many chose to specialize with their most effective weapon. There were noted samurai that specialized with the naginata or yari, or who were noted archers, but the sword was still the most effective weapon at their disposal. The same holds true today, US soldiers master the M-16, however they also learn to use the pistol, bayonet and knife, and unarmed tecniques.
Since the sword was so powerful and could mean life or death to the samurai, they placed a lot of faith in it and revered it above the other weapons, much as the Europeans revered their swords, and especially the Damascus steel blades.
Reply:Because it was their symbol of honor. It was what saved their lives over and over and over again. It was always with them and was as much a part of them as any arm or leg.
And FYI the majority of samurai had systems of empty handed fighting that were fairly similar to aiki-jujutsu although I can't remember the general name for the old system. I think it was kutsho or something similar
And Chinese martial arts teach you to use any weapon because they were peasant fighting arts. The samurai came from a warrior class where they would be staffed with weapons. Apples and oranges. Ninjutsu teaches you to use any weapon just like Chinese martial arts because it is a peasant art as well.
Reply:As Jerry said, the swords held a reverance to the Samurai. The largest reason was this : the daito had been handed down for generations father to son....there was a spiritual bond they held dear with the swords themselves because of this.
When it came to combat for example, the sword was not the most effective weapon on a battlefield....especially when one takes into consideration an opponent wearing full O-Yoroi (armor).
Also, the sword was mainly used when a Samurai went into war on horseback as one could use a Jin-Tachi (predative sword to the Katana) to cut an enemy down easily from a mounted position.
Anyhow, even beyond this, the Samurai trained in many many other weapons. For ex : Yari (spear), Naginata (halberd), Nagimaki (short handled halberd), Kusarigama (sickle and chain), Ogama (battlefield sized Kusarigama), Yumi and Ya (bow and arrow), Shuriken and Shaken (throwing blades), Bojutsu (staff - all of the other variants as well), Kusarifundo (handheld weighted chain), and the list goes on and on.
Some of these weapons were dictated in usage by their time in history....some were moreso modern, versus others moreso ancient....and not all Samurai were masters by any means of all these tools.
Some were more useful for fighting a man in armor (Yari for example), whereas others would have been relatively useless in the same scenario (Shaken for example).
The Samurai held their swords with a regard of spiritual resonance due to their familial bonds....it wasn't anything more complex than that.
Reply:Most early samurai were primarily archers. They let the peasants handle the dangerous close-quarters combat and stayed at a relatively safe distance. Even as the preference for other weapons rose, bows were still common on all samurai.
The reason we think of samurai as being nothing but swordman is because of the poetry written about the era of the combat samurai by the samurai of the Tokugawa Shogunate, who practically never saw battle, and as such were left with nothing to do by daydream of what their lives would have been like if they actually had a job to do. They were forced by duty and honor to be the best martial artists in the land, but lived through a roughly 250 year long era of peace.
Certainly, the fact that the poetry does praise the katana so much is reflective of its importance, but really, for most of the period of the combat samurai, bows and spears were the prefered weapons for warfare. Their daishos were symbols of rank and honor, used more in small-scale unpredicted battles, not full-scale combat.
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And also, i knwo that not all Samurai knew Jujitsu, so what would happen if a Samurai was disarmed? A shiaolin would still be able to fight. Why didn't the Samurai ever think of that?
Why did Samurai love their swords so much?
Why does a person love their pet so much they would die to save it?
we each have what are our priorities and what is important to us in life and to the Samuraii their Katana were as sacred to them as the Horse were to the Commances and or the Huns.
When they did not have their Katina to use they usually still had the Wakisashi and or Tanto where the first was preferred for indoor sword combat for its size.
it is just their personal devotion and faith that made them that way as any one is with something they are that passionate over.
Reply:it was (is) a symbol of honor that is taken very seriously.
Reply:The sword was there only friend.
Reply:They did. I'm not sure where you got your idea that the sword was the end-all-be-all to the samurai to the exclusion of all else. That simply isn't true. The sword was a primary weapon, the most efficient, potent, and practical, but not the only one that the samurai trained with, and they did train in unarmed combat as well.
The samurai practiced the katana, wakazashi, tanto, naginata, chigiriki, yumi, bo, yari, kusarigama, etc., as well as various unarmed techniques called "torite kogusoku" or "kogusoku koshi no mawari" or "kumiuchi" (the name jujitsu didn't come along until the 1600's) and kempo learned from their trade contact with the Chinese. A samurai had to be well rounded to be an effective soldier, but no one can master everything so many chose to specialize with their most effective weapon. There were noted samurai that specialized with the naginata or yari, or who were noted archers, but the sword was still the most effective weapon at their disposal. The same holds true today, US soldiers master the M-16, however they also learn to use the pistol, bayonet and knife, and unarmed tecniques.
Since the sword was so powerful and could mean life or death to the samurai, they placed a lot of faith in it and revered it above the other weapons, much as the Europeans revered their swords, and especially the Damascus steel blades.
Reply:Because it was their symbol of honor. It was what saved their lives over and over and over again. It was always with them and was as much a part of them as any arm or leg.
And FYI the majority of samurai had systems of empty handed fighting that were fairly similar to aiki-jujutsu although I can't remember the general name for the old system. I think it was kutsho or something similar
And Chinese martial arts teach you to use any weapon because they were peasant fighting arts. The samurai came from a warrior class where they would be staffed with weapons. Apples and oranges. Ninjutsu teaches you to use any weapon just like Chinese martial arts because it is a peasant art as well.
Reply:As Jerry said, the swords held a reverance to the Samurai. The largest reason was this : the daito had been handed down for generations father to son....there was a spiritual bond they held dear with the swords themselves because of this.
When it came to combat for example, the sword was not the most effective weapon on a battlefield....especially when one takes into consideration an opponent wearing full O-Yoroi (armor).
Also, the sword was mainly used when a Samurai went into war on horseback as one could use a Jin-Tachi (predative sword to the Katana) to cut an enemy down easily from a mounted position.
Anyhow, even beyond this, the Samurai trained in many many other weapons. For ex : Yari (spear), Naginata (halberd), Nagimaki (short handled halberd), Kusarigama (sickle and chain), Ogama (battlefield sized Kusarigama), Yumi and Ya (bow and arrow), Shuriken and Shaken (throwing blades), Bojutsu (staff - all of the other variants as well), Kusarifundo (handheld weighted chain), and the list goes on and on.
Some of these weapons were dictated in usage by their time in history....some were moreso modern, versus others moreso ancient....and not all Samurai were masters by any means of all these tools.
Some were more useful for fighting a man in armor (Yari for example), whereas others would have been relatively useless in the same scenario (Shaken for example).
The Samurai held their swords with a regard of spiritual resonance due to their familial bonds....it wasn't anything more complex than that.
Reply:Most early samurai were primarily archers. They let the peasants handle the dangerous close-quarters combat and stayed at a relatively safe distance. Even as the preference for other weapons rose, bows were still common on all samurai.
The reason we think of samurai as being nothing but swordman is because of the poetry written about the era of the combat samurai by the samurai of the Tokugawa Shogunate, who practically never saw battle, and as such were left with nothing to do by daydream of what their lives would have been like if they actually had a job to do. They were forced by duty and honor to be the best martial artists in the land, but lived through a roughly 250 year long era of peace.
Certainly, the fact that the poetry does praise the katana so much is reflective of its importance, but really, for most of the period of the combat samurai, bows and spears were the prefered weapons for warfare. Their daishos were symbols of rank and honor, used more in small-scale unpredicted battles, not full-scale combat.
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WHich is better? Karate or Kung Fu??
If You can be a master in Karate or Kung Fu (chinese martial arts), which would you be? Considering you are at the same level in both MAs.
WHich is better? Karate or Kung Fu??
All martial arts have they're good points. I prefer kung fu much more than karate and have studied both. I only did karate for 1 year %26amp; now have done kung fu for 7 - so I can't say I gave karate it's full chance. My reasons primarily based on my experience only; karate felt like I used only my arm to punch %26amp; just my leg to kick where with kung fu I feel that I've been taught to use my core muscles primarily and the arm %26amp; leg as extra. I feel like I can hit a lot harder this way. Kung fu is more versatile. The things to learn are a lot more varied so I didn't get bored so easily. Being phsically a smaller person, I feel like kung fu was much more beneficial because it teaches the idea of not only using my whole body to defend, but also how to redirect my opponents energy against them. Karate I felt was more like force impacting force where with kung fu it felt more like redirecting their energy right back on them.
(b.t.w. - karate is not based in china)
Reply:A Kung-Fu master will spend years evaluating you before he even starts to teach you the true art of Kung-Fu, where as Karate is "what you see is what you get."
So it depends on what you wan´t to use it for. Regular fighting? Go for Karate. Want to help find peace with yourself? Go Kung-Fu.
Reply:karate is not a chinese martial art and it depends
Reply:kalari payattu from kerala, india is better than these two
Reply:Kung Fu is better, Karate is easier.
Reply:tae kwon do its kinda like karate, its a mix of a bunch of martial arts forms, so its probably just want u want, plus it focuses more on ur inner strength than your outter. many people think that karate is all about fighting, but its really just the oppisite. tae kwon do was formed in korea. i would suggest reasearching all kinds of martial arts and seeing what u like best
Reply:The difference between the two lies in the way they display power. Karate is a more blunt, brutish display of power (samurai), while kung-fu is more subtle, hidden display of power-more emphasis on fluidity and grace, and short burst of power.....to say one is better would depend on the context by which the respectful one is displayed. I think in competitive hand to hand situations, Karate is more practical-MMA or combat; whereas with Kung Fu you will not see anyone in the octagon bust out some Jackie Chan....he will get hammered. Look at any of the top competitors in K-1 they all practice some form of Karate.
Reply:It all depends on the individual and what's available as a martial art.
I've been doing martial arts since 1968 and I have developed a preference for the Chinese martial arts, so if I could do it all over again, I would have jumped into a kwoon and stayed there.
Reply:It all depends on the person.
Reply:either one is better than the other, it would all depend on the people using these forms of material arts.
Reply:if i could suddenly be a master i would say karate have you ever seen a good karate guy fight punch kick etc the speed and power is amazing (id used to do karate and gave it up its not suited for me)
kung fu would be very cool and interesting and great for fitness but i would say karate
Reply:Without question, Kung Fu. Kung Fu does teach the basics in fighting technique and self-defense. But more importantly, students reach a point where their teachers realize they are ready to study the true art of Kung Fu, and move them beyond the physical to the higher order of this art form. True Masters know that the the true study is of ourselves, not of the forms. That is what makes traditional Shaolin Kung Fu so powerful, for it gives us no choice but to face the truth of ourselves.
Anyone can learn to fight an external enemy using any number of martial arts techniques. Who cares? I want to be able to rid myself of the demons that drag me down and hold me back from being the best that I can be at any given time. Kung Fu. Without question.
WHich is better? Karate or Kung Fu??
All martial arts have they're good points. I prefer kung fu much more than karate and have studied both. I only did karate for 1 year %26amp; now have done kung fu for 7 - so I can't say I gave karate it's full chance. My reasons primarily based on my experience only; karate felt like I used only my arm to punch %26amp; just my leg to kick where with kung fu I feel that I've been taught to use my core muscles primarily and the arm %26amp; leg as extra. I feel like I can hit a lot harder this way. Kung fu is more versatile. The things to learn are a lot more varied so I didn't get bored so easily. Being phsically a smaller person, I feel like kung fu was much more beneficial because it teaches the idea of not only using my whole body to defend, but also how to redirect my opponents energy against them. Karate I felt was more like force impacting force where with kung fu it felt more like redirecting their energy right back on them.
(b.t.w. - karate is not based in china)
Reply:A Kung-Fu master will spend years evaluating you before he even starts to teach you the true art of Kung-Fu, where as Karate is "what you see is what you get."
So it depends on what you wan´t to use it for. Regular fighting? Go for Karate. Want to help find peace with yourself? Go Kung-Fu.
Reply:karate is not a chinese martial art and it depends
Reply:kalari payattu from kerala, india is better than these two
Reply:Kung Fu is better, Karate is easier.
Reply:tae kwon do its kinda like karate, its a mix of a bunch of martial arts forms, so its probably just want u want, plus it focuses more on ur inner strength than your outter. many people think that karate is all about fighting, but its really just the oppisite. tae kwon do was formed in korea. i would suggest reasearching all kinds of martial arts and seeing what u like best
Reply:The difference between the two lies in the way they display power. Karate is a more blunt, brutish display of power (samurai), while kung-fu is more subtle, hidden display of power-more emphasis on fluidity and grace, and short burst of power.....to say one is better would depend on the context by which the respectful one is displayed. I think in competitive hand to hand situations, Karate is more practical-MMA or combat; whereas with Kung Fu you will not see anyone in the octagon bust out some Jackie Chan....he will get hammered. Look at any of the top competitors in K-1 they all practice some form of Karate.
Reply:It all depends on the individual and what's available as a martial art.
I've been doing martial arts since 1968 and I have developed a preference for the Chinese martial arts, so if I could do it all over again, I would have jumped into a kwoon and stayed there.
Reply:It all depends on the person.
Reply:either one is better than the other, it would all depend on the people using these forms of material arts.
Reply:if i could suddenly be a master i would say karate have you ever seen a good karate guy fight punch kick etc the speed and power is amazing (id used to do karate and gave it up its not suited for me)
kung fu would be very cool and interesting and great for fitness but i would say karate
Reply:Without question, Kung Fu. Kung Fu does teach the basics in fighting technique and self-defense. But more importantly, students reach a point where their teachers realize they are ready to study the true art of Kung Fu, and move them beyond the physical to the higher order of this art form. True Masters know that the the true study is of ourselves, not of the forms. That is what makes traditional Shaolin Kung Fu so powerful, for it gives us no choice but to face the truth of ourselves.
Anyone can learn to fight an external enemy using any number of martial arts techniques. Who cares? I want to be able to rid myself of the demons that drag me down and hold me back from being the best that I can be at any given time. Kung Fu. Without question.
Could you tell me ?
what did you get from practising chinese martial arts especially kung fu, tai chi etc..? was it a good investment for your body and life ? how long have you experienced and enjoyed the benefits ? thanks too much questions but i'm sure it's nothing
Could you tell me ?
In addition to the various external martial arts I have studied and taught, I now focus my studies and teaching efforts on Tai Chi Chuan - Yang long and short forms and Guang Ping Yang, Hsing - I Chuan, some Ba Qua Chang, and a little Yi Chuan.
What I have found most beneficial from a martial arts perspective is learning how to deliver far more power with much less effort while being relaxed. My body is much more supple and better connected internally than when I studied only external arts. This requires a very different approach as compared to the way many other arts are taught, especially in the beginning. Eventually this should be the goal of any decent martial art.
Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, are the health benefits derived from the study of the arts mention above. I have had old injuries to heal, structural misalignments corrected, and a general improvement in my health. The benefits I have seen others receive are almost unbelievable. For others I have seen flat feet regain arches, arthritis disappear, scoliosis corrected, nearly crippled knees regain full mobility, frozen shoulders regain full range of motion, an 80+ year old lady who could barely walk no longer need her quad-cane after a few months of Tai Chi Chuan. If these arts can so this for those with health problems, imagine what they can do for a healthy person by fine tuning the musculoskeletal and energetic systems for optimum health and martial ability.
Thirdly, I thoroughly enjoy studying the exotic weapons found in the Chinese arts. Though there is very little street value in learning some these, they do have their place in developing different aspects of hand-eye-body coordination. In addition it is pleasing to me to be able to pass on this knowledge.
I have studied martial arts for 25+ years. I began my studies of Chinese arts in 1986 and have focused almost exclusively on these arts since 1989. The benefits of these arts I have enjoyed since day one.
Reply:LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD MAKE YOUR LEGS STRONG BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU JUST KICK AND PUNCH AND MAKE A LOT OF WEIRD NOISES
Reply:it depends, if u attend full course seriously then it really helps.
Reply:I have gained a lot from my study of Tien Shan Pai. Mostly because of the instructor more than the art. I learned a lot of good techniques in Hapkido as well, but I felt the instructor did not teach the curriculum to it's fullest potential.
Tien Shan Pai encompasses blocks, strikes, locks, and chokes. It has value in both self defense and mind/body/spirit training. It would be quite easy for someone to train for a couple of years and decide to focus on only one aspect of the art, but my instructor chose to incorporate both aspects.
With an art that is as complex as many of the Chinese arts are, it is easy to see why they get 'modified' so often. If you train in a Chinese art and you excel at striking, but your grappling is weak, you may conclude that it is the technique that is weak and not your application. Then if you open your own school, you would teach only the striking because in your mind 'grappling doesn't work'. That is the nature of business. People today do not learn the art so they can improve their own way of life. They learn so that they can open a school as quickly as possible so that they can make money from others instead of paying someone to teach them.
All martial arts will benefit your body and life. 1. It's exercise. Any workout is better than none at all. 2. While you are training, you aren't doing things that could be negative like drinking or smoking (not that you don't ever do these things, but at least not for the 45-90 minutes that you are working out). 3. They all build self confidence. Even schools that are considered 'Mc Dojo's' can give students a sense of confidence. Not looking like a victim is often enough of a deterrent for petty criminals or bullies. 4. Social interaction. It's not a video game. No matter what, you need to interact with people while you train. You share a common bond and you develop relationships.
I've trained in the martial arts for almost 30 years and I haven't found a school or style that I haven't learned something from.
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He was a great example of a
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The Best Martial Artist teaches how to LIVE and LOVE
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Reply:Taiji is a long term study that may take DECADES before a student becomes PROFICIENT.
Mastering the discipline may take a lifetime -- IF you can find a good teacher (REAL BIG "IF"!) Masters are reluctant to teach a student everything there is to learn unless the student has demonstrated real dedication and aptitude.
The immediate benefits are: low impact exercise, tension/stress relief, mind calming, improved health and patience.
I am a practitioner of Jnana Yoga. Hatha %26amp; Kundalini yoga never did anything for me and Taiji filled in the gap in my yoga practice when it came to working on/with the body.
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Could you tell me ?
In addition to the various external martial arts I have studied and taught, I now focus my studies and teaching efforts on Tai Chi Chuan - Yang long and short forms and Guang Ping Yang, Hsing - I Chuan, some Ba Qua Chang, and a little Yi Chuan.
What I have found most beneficial from a martial arts perspective is learning how to deliver far more power with much less effort while being relaxed. My body is much more supple and better connected internally than when I studied only external arts. This requires a very different approach as compared to the way many other arts are taught, especially in the beginning. Eventually this should be the goal of any decent martial art.
Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, are the health benefits derived from the study of the arts mention above. I have had old injuries to heal, structural misalignments corrected, and a general improvement in my health. The benefits I have seen others receive are almost unbelievable. For others I have seen flat feet regain arches, arthritis disappear, scoliosis corrected, nearly crippled knees regain full mobility, frozen shoulders regain full range of motion, an 80+ year old lady who could barely walk no longer need her quad-cane after a few months of Tai Chi Chuan. If these arts can so this for those with health problems, imagine what they can do for a healthy person by fine tuning the musculoskeletal and energetic systems for optimum health and martial ability.
Thirdly, I thoroughly enjoy studying the exotic weapons found in the Chinese arts. Though there is very little street value in learning some these, they do have their place in developing different aspects of hand-eye-body coordination. In addition it is pleasing to me to be able to pass on this knowledge.
I have studied martial arts for 25+ years. I began my studies of Chinese arts in 1986 and have focused almost exclusively on these arts since 1989. The benefits of these arts I have enjoyed since day one.
Reply:LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD MAKE YOUR LEGS STRONG BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU JUST KICK AND PUNCH AND MAKE A LOT OF WEIRD NOISES
Reply:it depends, if u attend full course seriously then it really helps.
Reply:I have gained a lot from my study of Tien Shan Pai. Mostly because of the instructor more than the art. I learned a lot of good techniques in Hapkido as well, but I felt the instructor did not teach the curriculum to it's fullest potential.
Tien Shan Pai encompasses blocks, strikes, locks, and chokes. It has value in both self defense and mind/body/spirit training. It would be quite easy for someone to train for a couple of years and decide to focus on only one aspect of the art, but my instructor chose to incorporate both aspects.
With an art that is as complex as many of the Chinese arts are, it is easy to see why they get 'modified' so often. If you train in a Chinese art and you excel at striking, but your grappling is weak, you may conclude that it is the technique that is weak and not your application. Then if you open your own school, you would teach only the striking because in your mind 'grappling doesn't work'. That is the nature of business. People today do not learn the art so they can improve their own way of life. They learn so that they can open a school as quickly as possible so that they can make money from others instead of paying someone to teach them.
All martial arts will benefit your body and life. 1. It's exercise. Any workout is better than none at all. 2. While you are training, you aren't doing things that could be negative like drinking or smoking (not that you don't ever do these things, but at least not for the 45-90 minutes that you are working out). 3. They all build self confidence. Even schools that are considered 'Mc Dojo's' can give students a sense of confidence. Not looking like a victim is often enough of a deterrent for petty criminals or bullies. 4. Social interaction. It's not a video game. No matter what, you need to interact with people while you train. You share a common bond and you develop relationships.
I've trained in the martial arts for almost 30 years and I haven't found a school or style that I haven't learned something from.
Reply:www,krackedskullz.com
I made Friends, have fun, and enjoy what most at my age wish
Jimi H Woo
A Great Man First, Fighter second
He was a great example of a
PEACEFUL WARRIOR
The Best Martial Artist teaches how to LIVE and LOVE
Not Kill
Reply:Taiji is a long term study that may take DECADES before a student becomes PROFICIENT.
Mastering the discipline may take a lifetime -- IF you can find a good teacher (REAL BIG "IF"!) Masters are reluctant to teach a student everything there is to learn unless the student has demonstrated real dedication and aptitude.
The immediate benefits are: low impact exercise, tension/stress relief, mind calming, improved health and patience.
I am a practitioner of Jnana Yoga. Hatha %26amp; Kundalini yoga never did anything for me and Taiji filled in the gap in my yoga practice when it came to working on/with the body.
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What should i do to this guy?
Ok i met this cool friend last year who i share knowledge about chinese martial arts with. no one in my school talks about that stuff but the two of us. i was real happy. now this year he just ignores me i feel so bad, i tried to talk to him and he always say that hes busy. i really want to learn more about chinese wushu from him but he doesn't even want to talk. like last week he said he ll talk on thurs. i wait after school for one hour. tuesday he said its ok, i waited for another hour. this thursday i waiting for another hour. i m real pissed
What should i do to this guy?
I don't know why he dropped the friendship, but you are acting kind of needy--almost stalking like. take a hint, for whatever reason, he does not want to associate with you.....let it go.
Reply:he thinks he's better than you don't bother with him
Reply:Nothing you have said is bad enough to do something to him.Don't worry about it.He's not the only person that knows Wushu.
Reply:Ignore the guy and find a book on it. Or an even cooler idea. USE YAHOO ANSWERS!!
What should i do to this guy?
I don't know why he dropped the friendship, but you are acting kind of needy--almost stalking like. take a hint, for whatever reason, he does not want to associate with you.....let it go.
Reply:he thinks he's better than you don't bother with him
Reply:Nothing you have said is bad enough to do something to him.Don't worry about it.He's not the only person that knows Wushu.
Reply:Ignore the guy and find a book on it. Or an even cooler idea. USE YAHOO ANSWERS!!
Kenpo and Kendo same origin??
I know Kenpo is Chinese martial arts so is kendo chinese too because of the ken in front? or is it japanese, if it is chinese where could I find more info on both
Kenpo and Kendo same origin??
Kendo is Japanese the same as the word, Kenpo.
Kenpo(Fist=Ken, Way=Po) was refined in Okinawa(Under Japan Governance) but stemmed from the Chinese, Chuan Fa system(Fist=Chuan, Way=Fa).
Keeping it basic Kenpo, Is originated in its present form from Okinawa, Japan but it main roots and principles come from Chuan Fa, from China.
Reply:kendo is japanese
just because they start with same leters dont mean they have same origin'
i.e.John Jose Jose mexican origin Johhn possibly english?
Reply:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenpo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendo
Reply:Both words are Japanese.
Kenpo in Chinese is Chuan Fa
It has Chinese origins, but the name is Japanese.
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Kenpo and Kendo same origin??
Kendo is Japanese the same as the word, Kenpo.
Kenpo(Fist=Ken, Way=Po) was refined in Okinawa(Under Japan Governance) but stemmed from the Chinese, Chuan Fa system(Fist=Chuan, Way=Fa).
Keeping it basic Kenpo, Is originated in its present form from Okinawa, Japan but it main roots and principles come from Chuan Fa, from China.
Reply:kendo is japanese
just because they start with same leters dont mean they have same origin'
i.e.John Jose Jose mexican origin Johhn possibly english?
Reply:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenpo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendo
Reply:Both words are Japanese.
Kenpo in Chinese is Chuan Fa
It has Chinese origins, but the name is Japanese.
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I can't find the font that Nickelodeon uses for "Avatar: The Last Airbender" main title. Anyone know??
I really like this font, and I've looked everywhere! Brush script, Chinese, calligraphy...every category possible. The show is a cartoon on the kid's network, Nickelodeon. It's based on Chinese martial arts and uses the four basic elements--water, earth, fire, and air--as plot points. The writing I have in mind is shown at the very end of the show's intro, underneath some Chinese characters. I don't know where else to go to find the font. Does an "Avatar" fan out there have any suggestions?
I can't find the font that Nickelodeon uses for "Avatar: The Last Airbender" main title. Anyone know??
Looks like the closest thing is a font called ITC Spirit. I'm not sure if it's a free download or if you pay for it, but look around for it and see what happens. Hope this helps.
Reply:usually these fonts are created from the show themselves. Best bet is to find someone who has "stolen" them by going to their website and tracing them using some kind of graphics program.
Reply:They probably painted it with an actual brush or digitally created it on a computer. I don't think it is available to anyone, but I'm not entirealy sure...
Reply:I can check out all of my fonts and get back to you.
Reply:It may be copy written so it wont be available.
Reply:i have no idea but i like that font too and thats the best show in the ENTIRE world
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I can't find the font that Nickelodeon uses for "Avatar: The Last Airbender" main title. Anyone know??
Looks like the closest thing is a font called ITC Spirit. I'm not sure if it's a free download or if you pay for it, but look around for it and see what happens. Hope this helps.
Reply:usually these fonts are created from the show themselves. Best bet is to find someone who has "stolen" them by going to their website and tracing them using some kind of graphics program.
Reply:They probably painted it with an actual brush or digitally created it on a computer. I don't think it is available to anyone, but I'm not entirealy sure...
Reply:I can check out all of my fonts and get back to you.
Reply:It may be copy written so it wont be available.
Reply:i have no idea but i like that font too and thats the best show in the ENTIRE world
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Whats the kung fu kiai?
kiai is the shout in japanese martial arts but what is the name of the shouts in chinese martial arts?
Whats the kung fu kiai?
There isn't any. Most Kung Fu practitioners prefer to hiss thru clenched teeth as part of their breathing control techniques. The Kiai is a technique that's unique to Japanese martial arts as an influence of their Zen training and later carried over to the Korean martial arts by Korean karatekas who later formed their own unique Korean style. The kiai you see in most kung fu movies are just there for theatrics and were basically made up by the voice actors who dubbed the films. Bruce Lee had one of the most unique cat like shriek in cinema, colorful and cool but in real life I doubt if it did anything to improve one's fighting ability.
Reply:Ching Chong Hit From the bong?
Reply:Honestly I can't think of it's name. The kung fu I was taught was in english. We didn't use a lot of chinese terminology.
Reply:I'll say it is good to shout in a battle, whether its Chinese or Japanese not. It helps you focus by clearing your head somewhat from the adrenal dump you feel when you are fighting.
Each Chinese martial arts do have their own distinctive shouts or sound. 吼，发声 are some of the names we use.
Whats the kung fu kiai?
There isn't any. Most Kung Fu practitioners prefer to hiss thru clenched teeth as part of their breathing control techniques. The Kiai is a technique that's unique to Japanese martial arts as an influence of their Zen training and later carried over to the Korean martial arts by Korean karatekas who later formed their own unique Korean style. The kiai you see in most kung fu movies are just there for theatrics and were basically made up by the voice actors who dubbed the films. Bruce Lee had one of the most unique cat like shriek in cinema, colorful and cool but in real life I doubt if it did anything to improve one's fighting ability.
Reply:Ching Chong Hit From the bong?
Reply:Honestly I can't think of it's name. The kung fu I was taught was in english. We didn't use a lot of chinese terminology.
Reply:I'll say it is good to shout in a battle, whether its Chinese or Japanese not. It helps you focus by clearing your head somewhat from the adrenal dump you feel when you are fighting.
Each Chinese martial arts do have their own distinctive shouts or sound. 吼，发声 are some of the names we use.
Beijing Wushu Institute.?
I'm particlarly interested in studying chinese martial arts in China This is supposedly the place where Jet Li learned martial arts.
So what's the curriculum? What Martial arts are taught? Changquan? Tai chi Chuan? What?
Beijing Wushu Institute.?
haha a lot of stuff are teached...look at everything jet li does i suggest u got watch wushu videos on youtube
Reply:Just a question it's the Beijing Wushu Institute teaches only chinese martial arts for movies? Do they teach real chinese martial arts?
Reply:I don't know about this one in particular. But if you look up an organisation called WLE (World Link Education) they have programs to study martial arts in china. You can go through them to enroll at the Beijing Instutute of Sport and Health.
Check them out. But if you want info on the one you heard of, don't ask us. Google it.
Reply:some finformation at http://www.foreignercn.com
-classifield-beijing-services-Health %26amp; Fitness
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So what's the curriculum? What Martial arts are taught? Changquan? Tai chi Chuan? What?
Beijing Wushu Institute.?
haha a lot of stuff are teached...look at everything jet li does i suggest u got watch wushu videos on youtube
Reply:Just a question it's the Beijing Wushu Institute teaches only chinese martial arts for movies? Do they teach real chinese martial arts?
Reply:I don't know about this one in particular. But if you look up an organisation called WLE (World Link Education) they have programs to study martial arts in china. You can go through them to enroll at the Beijing Instutute of Sport and Health.
Check them out. But if you want info on the one you heard of, don't ask us. Google it.
Reply:some finformation at http://www.foreignercn.com
-classifield-beijing-services-Health %26amp; Fitness
cotton tree
Are the fighters who fight in Chinese films real or it is just a photography or videography?
chinese actors fight like birds and fly in air. can someone be so efficient by practicing chinese or japanese arts of warfare like kung fu karate or martial arts?
Are the fighters who fight in Chinese films real or it is just a photography or videography?
It's of course movies and lots of tricks and rob and other stuff will be used to make Martial Arts movies. Some of the actors have basic knowledge of MA, and some are realy good and practical. It's really easy to see the debt of their capability for the trained eyes.
Reply:on the off chance you are very young, I will be nice.
No, they are not real.
the "flying" is done with wires.
the martial arts and fighting in ALL movies (not just martial arts movies) is fake.
In real fighting you want to CONCEAL what you are doing as the goal is to be able to strike your opponent. Your movements are sublte and deceptive to be able to hurt your opponent.
In stage/film combat you want to be able to REVEAL your movements and make them obvious so the crowd can see what is going on and so you don't accidently injure your opponent. Safety of your opponent is primary concern so you don't hurt them.
Reply:Come back to reality my friend. A lot of these movies are just fantasy. Like American movies that show Hercules, Sinbad or Jason and the Argonauts. Yes some exceptions are made for quickness and balance, but flight and invisibility is just state of mind. For example : someone who can hide in shadows well and be virtually silent, may be thought to be invisible - a person may be agile and strong to jump from one building to another may appear to fly. But all in all most are just actors with a martial art or dance background using smoke and mirrors.
Now there are exceptions, such as Bruce Lee who's blinding speed caused film makers to lose the action. He needed to slow down his techniques for the camera to record them.
In more extreme situations, you have people like Chris Angel who are just so in touch with their body and surroundings that they are able to use mind over matter.
And if you really want to get into it, there are legends of old such as Jesus. Sorry but it's true, try to believe these stories taking place now. It's like shaking hands with a Grey in your front yard.
Looking that more and more people are able to use more of their brain than in the past it is feasible to believe that these extreme attributes can at some point be achieved. But for now there is only Hollywood flash and Character pizazz.
Reply:the flying stuff isn't real, but the action sequences are. most prefer to do their own stunts...
Reply:only very little of that is actually possible, the rest is wire work and judicious editing techniques.
Reply:Some real and some with wires.
Or if your talking about the move Kung Fu Hustle then computer animation pretty much.
Reply:it's representation of fantasy and dreams
Reply:I guess you've never heard of gravity.
Reply:No, in real life if someone allowed themselves to be surrounded by multiple attackers, they would be dead, because in movies the success of the fighters is often a result of their enemies being too dumb to realize that they should attack all at once instead of taking turns attacking the fighter. The filmmakers want the heroes to look invincible, so they exaggerate their abilities and make their enemies look like pushovers.
Reply:Most are actors whom studied in the Chinese Opera
Some are authentic
Reply:Well, though they are heavily stylized and somewhat simplistic on screen, I can tell you that Jet Li and Jackie Chan both demonstrate real kung fu on screen. Is it as effective as shown on screen? I'd say "no" with some of the more "out there" stuff, but a great deal of what Jet Li did in Fearless and Fist of Legend is real.
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Are the fighters who fight in Chinese films real or it is just a photography or videography?
It's of course movies and lots of tricks and rob and other stuff will be used to make Martial Arts movies. Some of the actors have basic knowledge of MA, and some are realy good and practical. It's really easy to see the debt of their capability for the trained eyes.
Reply:on the off chance you are very young, I will be nice.
No, they are not real.
the "flying" is done with wires.
the martial arts and fighting in ALL movies (not just martial arts movies) is fake.
In real fighting you want to CONCEAL what you are doing as the goal is to be able to strike your opponent. Your movements are sublte and deceptive to be able to hurt your opponent.
In stage/film combat you want to be able to REVEAL your movements and make them obvious so the crowd can see what is going on and so you don't accidently injure your opponent. Safety of your opponent is primary concern so you don't hurt them.
Reply:Come back to reality my friend. A lot of these movies are just fantasy. Like American movies that show Hercules, Sinbad or Jason and the Argonauts. Yes some exceptions are made for quickness and balance, but flight and invisibility is just state of mind. For example : someone who can hide in shadows well and be virtually silent, may be thought to be invisible - a person may be agile and strong to jump from one building to another may appear to fly. But all in all most are just actors with a martial art or dance background using smoke and mirrors.
Now there are exceptions, such as Bruce Lee who's blinding speed caused film makers to lose the action. He needed to slow down his techniques for the camera to record them.
In more extreme situations, you have people like Chris Angel who are just so in touch with their body and surroundings that they are able to use mind over matter.
And if you really want to get into it, there are legends of old such as Jesus. Sorry but it's true, try to believe these stories taking place now. It's like shaking hands with a Grey in your front yard.
Looking that more and more people are able to use more of their brain than in the past it is feasible to believe that these extreme attributes can at some point be achieved. But for now there is only Hollywood flash and Character pizazz.
Reply:the flying stuff isn't real, but the action sequences are. most prefer to do their own stunts...
Reply:only very little of that is actually possible, the rest is wire work and judicious editing techniques.
Reply:Some real and some with wires.
Or if your talking about the move Kung Fu Hustle then computer animation pretty much.
Reply:it's representation of fantasy and dreams
Reply:I guess you've never heard of gravity.
Reply:No, in real life if someone allowed themselves to be surrounded by multiple attackers, they would be dead, because in movies the success of the fighters is often a result of their enemies being too dumb to realize that they should attack all at once instead of taking turns attacking the fighter. The filmmakers want the heroes to look invincible, so they exaggerate their abilities and make their enemies look like pushovers.
Reply:Most are actors whom studied in the Chinese Opera
Some are authentic
Reply:Well, though they are heavily stylized and somewhat simplistic on screen, I can tell you that Jet Li and Jackie Chan both demonstrate real kung fu on screen. Is it as effective as shown on screen? I'd say "no" with some of the more "out there" stuff, but a great deal of what Jet Li did in Fearless and Fist of Legend is real.
peach
Can you suggest a very effective but non-lethal martial arts stick for self defense?
I live in a small town and the closest I can find to a relevant class is chinese sword training.
Can you suggest a very effective but non-lethal martial arts stick for self defense?
any weapon is lethal in the hands of someone that knows how to use it.you would be surprised at what an expert can kill or injure you with.unless you are adept at using a weapon you are better off not to carry one.it's quite easy for someone who knows how to take it of you and use it on you or someone else.besides which most ma weapons are impracticle to carry anyway.
you would be better off doing ma and learn weapons in conjunction with that.
Reply:I agree with Bushide any weapon is lethal in the right hands and if you are not adept in it do not carry it until you are. Report It
Reply:I agree with Bushido any weapon is lethal in the right hands and if you are not adept in it do not carry it until you are. Report It
Reply:There is no such thing as a non-lethal stick. Any stick can kill if it's jammed into the head.
Reply:the non lethal part of a weapon is the user. you use it to stun, or you use it to kill, that's your choice. no weapon is non lethal.
Reply:You could try one of these. Cops use them also.
http://www.awma.com/index.cfm/action/pro...
Reply:I'm not sure why you want to learn to defend yourself with a stick, are you planning on carrying a stick around with you? The most effective form of self defense when your opponent is not a trained fighter is clearly Brazillian Jiu Jitsu.
Reply:Goto a lumber yard, buy a 1"-1.5" dowel. Get a hard wood obviously. The guy above me is right, are you going to carry this stick around? I have a stick, but I keep it in my house, where I also have a rifle and 2 handguns.
Reply:Sword training is hardly non lethal, %26amp; you'd attract a lot of unwanted attention walking around carrying 1. Look in neighboring towns. I'd be surprised if there aren't some empty handed MA schools somewhere near by. As for non lethal, grappling styles generally can be used with less injury to your attacker. They have their limitations though.
Reply:If you want to learn to stick fight learn the art of Arniss Kali Silat, a Phillipino style of stick fighting and you could use heavy rubber made sticks that are less lethal than a wooden one. THe term non lethal really does not get used anymore in terms such as these even with the police or Feds, they call it less than lethal now but not necessarily non lethal, mistakes and errors can be made even with bean bag guns hitting you in the eye.
Here is someone i know that teaches it. His name is Greg P Allen.
his contact info is P. Greg Alland, Executive Director, Producer, Lecturer
World Kali Silat Society 2400 Atlantic Ave. #121 Va. Beach, VA 23458
(917) 535 (KALI) 5254
web address is http://www.kalisilat.com/
Good Luck
Reply:bo staff
Reply:Either a bo staff or Filipino Kali sticks.
Reply:google JABKA click on link that reads:
Japanese American Butokukan Karate Association
Click schools one you get to the site. See if there is one close to you.
Reply:Non lethal? Do you really want that? Where will you be carrying the sticks around? If you even plan to carry it around on you, I believe you could get charge for assault if you use it on someone unarmed, even if they attack you first.
As for home defense, why would you want to do something non lethal? Do you really want to worry about not hurting the invader while the invader probably would be bent on trying to kill you or seriously injury you? That sounds like perfect recipt for disaster. Even if you did use stick and hurt the person badly, guess what? They'll sue you so hard that you'll lose everything you own! That's why it's alway better to have a gun and learn how to kill a person with a single shot. That way you can take someone out from distance without worrying about them sue you.
Reply:I would suggest the Irish Whiskey Dance, which is a style of Irish stick fighting that is pretty much like boxing while hanging on to a sturdy stick.
While it is a less than lethal style, it can style cause very severe injuries to an unprotected body.
Reply:Jodo is a small staff- maybe look in that direction
Can you suggest a very effective but non-lethal martial arts stick for self defense?
any weapon is lethal in the hands of someone that knows how to use it.you would be surprised at what an expert can kill or injure you with.unless you are adept at using a weapon you are better off not to carry one.it's quite easy for someone who knows how to take it of you and use it on you or someone else.besides which most ma weapons are impracticle to carry anyway.
you would be better off doing ma and learn weapons in conjunction with that.
Reply:I agree with Bushide any weapon is lethal in the right hands and if you are not adept in it do not carry it until you are. Report It
Reply:I agree with Bushido any weapon is lethal in the right hands and if you are not adept in it do not carry it until you are. Report It
Reply:There is no such thing as a non-lethal stick. Any stick can kill if it's jammed into the head.
Reply:the non lethal part of a weapon is the user. you use it to stun, or you use it to kill, that's your choice. no weapon is non lethal.
Reply:You could try one of these. Cops use them also.
http://www.awma.com/index.cfm/action/pro...
Reply:I'm not sure why you want to learn to defend yourself with a stick, are you planning on carrying a stick around with you? The most effective form of self defense when your opponent is not a trained fighter is clearly Brazillian Jiu Jitsu.
Reply:Goto a lumber yard, buy a 1"-1.5" dowel. Get a hard wood obviously. The guy above me is right, are you going to carry this stick around? I have a stick, but I keep it in my house, where I also have a rifle and 2 handguns.
Reply:Sword training is hardly non lethal, %26amp; you'd attract a lot of unwanted attention walking around carrying 1. Look in neighboring towns. I'd be surprised if there aren't some empty handed MA schools somewhere near by. As for non lethal, grappling styles generally can be used with less injury to your attacker. They have their limitations though.
Reply:If you want to learn to stick fight learn the art of Arniss Kali Silat, a Phillipino style of stick fighting and you could use heavy rubber made sticks that are less lethal than a wooden one. THe term non lethal really does not get used anymore in terms such as these even with the police or Feds, they call it less than lethal now but not necessarily non lethal, mistakes and errors can be made even with bean bag guns hitting you in the eye.
Here is someone i know that teaches it. His name is Greg P Allen.
his contact info is P. Greg Alland, Executive Director, Producer, Lecturer
World Kali Silat Society 2400 Atlantic Ave. #121 Va. Beach, VA 23458
(917) 535 (KALI) 5254
web address is http://www.kalisilat.com/
Good Luck
Reply:bo staff
Reply:Either a bo staff or Filipino Kali sticks.
Reply:google JABKA click on link that reads:
Japanese American Butokukan Karate Association
Click schools one you get to the site. See if there is one close to you.
Reply:Non lethal? Do you really want that? Where will you be carrying the sticks around? If you even plan to carry it around on you, I believe you could get charge for assault if you use it on someone unarmed, even if they attack you first.
As for home defense, why would you want to do something non lethal? Do you really want to worry about not hurting the invader while the invader probably would be bent on trying to kill you or seriously injury you? That sounds like perfect recipt for disaster. Even if you did use stick and hurt the person badly, guess what? They'll sue you so hard that you'll lose everything you own! That's why it's alway better to have a gun and learn how to kill a person with a single shot. That way you can take someone out from distance without worrying about them sue you.
Reply:I would suggest the Irish Whiskey Dance, which is a style of Irish stick fighting that is pretty much like boxing while hanging on to a sturdy stick.
While it is a less than lethal style, it can style cause very severe injuries to an unprotected body.
Reply:Jodo is a small staff- maybe look in that direction
Chow Yun-Fat - does any1 know about his martial arts background?
From the little looking around I done, I can only tell he trained a little, and considers himself as a poor fighter, yet, a little training to those chinese/HK actors is like a couple of black belts in the west (sometimes anyway)...
Anyways, if any1 knows what styles he done, for how long etc, I would be grateful - CHEERS!!! :)
Chow Yun-Fat - does any1 know about his martial arts background?
Actually, Chow Yun Fat was well known in Hongkong more for his role as a gunslinger in cult classic gunfight films than as a martial artist. His famous roles as a Hitman with a conscience in "The K1llers" and as a 'Dirty Harry' type Cop in "Hard Boiled" was what catapulted him to international fame. As far as I know, he doesn't have any background in martial arts and merely perform choreographed fight scenes and uses doubles for the difficult acrobatic scenes. Most Hong Kong actors usually have to perform a martial art scene at one time in their career whether they have a background in it or not since martial arts plays a big part in most Chinese mov1es.
Reply:He trained with Mao tse Dong and Ho chi Min
Reply:As far as I know, he was originally a famous actor for his roles in movies involving gangsters. If I'm correct, he doesn't really have any real martial arts experience, per se. Compared to the likes of Jet Li and Zhang Ziyi (co-actor in Crouching Tiger) he doesn't have any experience at all really.
He is mostly an actor. In Hong Kong, actors usually take on different roles and take on martial arts roles even if they can or cannot perform martial arts in real life. That's pretty much how the scene goes in Hong Kong. If I'm guessing correctly, he's just given a few martial arts roles here and there because of his nationality more than anything else.
Reply:He doesn't have any.
He's just an actor.
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Anyways, if any1 knows what styles he done, for how long etc, I would be grateful - CHEERS!!! :)
Chow Yun-Fat - does any1 know about his martial arts background?
Actually, Chow Yun Fat was well known in Hongkong more for his role as a gunslinger in cult classic gunfight films than as a martial artist. His famous roles as a Hitman with a conscience in "The K1llers" and as a 'Dirty Harry' type Cop in "Hard Boiled" was what catapulted him to international fame. As far as I know, he doesn't have any background in martial arts and merely perform choreographed fight scenes and uses doubles for the difficult acrobatic scenes. Most Hong Kong actors usually have to perform a martial art scene at one time in their career whether they have a background in it or not since martial arts plays a big part in most Chinese mov1es.
Reply:He trained with Mao tse Dong and Ho chi Min
Reply:As far as I know, he was originally a famous actor for his roles in movies involving gangsters. If I'm correct, he doesn't really have any real martial arts experience, per se. Compared to the likes of Jet Li and Zhang Ziyi (co-actor in Crouching Tiger) he doesn't have any experience at all really.
He is mostly an actor. In Hong Kong, actors usually take on different roles and take on martial arts roles even if they can or cannot perform martial arts in real life. That's pretty much how the scene goes in Hong Kong. If I'm guessing correctly, he's just given a few martial arts roles here and there because of his nationality more than anything else.
Reply:He doesn't have any.
He's just an actor.
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Hawaii Origin Martial Arts: I want to know about martial arts ethics for my own understanding?
My grandfather migrated to Hawaii and to San Francisco with his four brothers in the late 1800s. My family is China's royal family (1644 to 2007). The main unit is composed our four main lineages represented by four brothers selected by the clan (Chin Yin Tong Family Hall). Professor Chow's father was the youngest of the four.
If our family and clan is struggling and needed other people's help, would, should Professor Chow's martial arts students and followers help preserve the old traditions and culture of the Professor's? How important is cultural preservation? What kind of dedication should martial arts people render unto the founder of a practice? Should they ignore the man's family, who are the Imperial princes of China, now residing in America, without any sense of Chinese cultural values?
When the Imperial family returns to China, it will be absent one lineage. Is this right of martial arts people to do this to China's Imperial family?
I would like to find answers.
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Hawaii Origin Martial Arts: I want to know about martial arts ethics for my own understanding?
First question is your lineage . everything is on your word . if i were running a martial arts school in your area i would want proof that you are genuine descendants.once confirmed i would and my students all in our power to support and help you .nuff said
Reply:Who cares more scams come out of china than vegas.
Reply:Bologna Italy...
I am John Gotti Jr and I know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.
Now that you are working for NASA and the CIA what does your Little Orphan Annie decoder ring tell you about the difference between neurotic and psychotic.
Reply:dude, many people in China are descendants of imperial families, since China has so many dynasties and the emperors had so many wives and children, according to your theory, I'm descendant of imperial family too, descendant of Chow dynasty ( 1062 BC ~ 221 BC), and my ancestors were always intellectuals throughout China's history, forget about what imperials, the past is in the past, and nothing is permanent.
If our family and clan is struggling and needed other people's help, would, should Professor Chow's martial arts students and followers help preserve the old traditions and culture of the Professor's? How important is cultural preservation? What kind of dedication should martial arts people render unto the founder of a practice? Should they ignore the man's family, who are the Imperial princes of China, now residing in America, without any sense of Chinese cultural values?
When the Imperial family returns to China, it will be absent one lineage. Is this right of martial arts people to do this to China's Imperial family?
I would like to find answers.
.
Hawaii Origin Martial Arts: I want to know about martial arts ethics for my own understanding?
First question is your lineage . everything is on your word . if i were running a martial arts school in your area i would want proof that you are genuine descendants.once confirmed i would and my students all in our power to support and help you .nuff said
Reply:Who cares more scams come out of china than vegas.
Reply:Bologna Italy...
I am John Gotti Jr and I know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.
Now that you are working for NASA and the CIA what does your Little Orphan Annie decoder ring tell you about the difference between neurotic and psychotic.
Reply:dude, many people in China are descendants of imperial families, since China has so many dynasties and the emperors had so many wives and children, according to your theory, I'm descendant of imperial family too, descendant of Chow dynasty ( 1062 BC ~ 221 BC), and my ancestors were always intellectuals throughout China's history, forget about what imperials, the past is in the past, and nothing is permanent.
What martial arts are the most aggressive and/or most dangerous to learn?
I heard that chinese kempo is one of the most dangerous martial arts. Is this true or are there others that are even more dangerous than Kempo?
What martial arts are the most aggressive and/or most dangerous to learn?
A blend.. Take Judo, Aikido, Jeet kune do, Kung Fu Tiger style, , Juijitsu, Combine them add Military combat techniques, and an understanding of the way a human Reacts and is assembled. That is the most dangerous. When you get to this level you know the easy ways to break bones, Joints and snap necks including ways to put your opponent in a position to strike or take on multiple aggressors with Fatal strikes on all. No one style knows all the techniques. You must consider all. And now that Kempo is brought up. I will be studying Kempo style as well..
Reply:Learning Muay Thai in Thailand. Training consists of kicking trees until ur shins go numb to taking turns getting kicked, punched, kneed and elbowed in an attempt to prepare the fighter for the match. Pretty hardcore.
Reply:Not sure why you want to know - %26amp; why may help answer the questions.
If you are wanting to spar - then Kempo may be good for you - they focus on competeitve fighing. Another if you just want to mix it up like a bear is jujitsu - if you are patient enough to learn the basics; then you can spar a lot.
Dangerous as I define it is mostly in the mind %26amp; anyone can be danerous - it all depends on where they are mentally.
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What martial arts are the most aggressive and/or most dangerous to learn?
A blend.. Take Judo, Aikido, Jeet kune do, Kung Fu Tiger style, , Juijitsu, Combine them add Military combat techniques, and an understanding of the way a human Reacts and is assembled. That is the most dangerous. When you get to this level you know the easy ways to break bones, Joints and snap necks including ways to put your opponent in a position to strike or take on multiple aggressors with Fatal strikes on all. No one style knows all the techniques. You must consider all. And now that Kempo is brought up. I will be studying Kempo style as well..
Reply:Learning Muay Thai in Thailand. Training consists of kicking trees until ur shins go numb to taking turns getting kicked, punched, kneed and elbowed in an attempt to prepare the fighter for the match. Pretty hardcore.
Reply:Not sure why you want to know - %26amp; why may help answer the questions.
If you are wanting to spar - then Kempo may be good for you - they focus on competeitve fighing. Another if you just want to mix it up like a bear is jujitsu - if you are patient enough to learn the basics; then you can spar a lot.
Dangerous as I define it is mostly in the mind %26amp; anyone can be danerous - it all depends on where they are mentally.
new year lily
Chinese "gi's"?
where are the traditional chinese martial arts gi's (if that's what they're called) sold, such as the ones bruce and jackie chan wore like enter the dragon (bruce), chinese connection (bruce), and drunken master (jackie chan) in old school movies, not the shaolin type. I'd love to get one of those.
Chinese "gi's"?
These are typically called "Kung Fu Uniforms".
You can google that and find 100's of online suppliers.
www.awma.com has a decent selection.
If you live in a major city, I'm sure you can find a martial arts supply store that carries them locally in your yellow pages.
James
Reply:Any martial arts store will have them dude
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Reply:Its called a Sam. Any Martial Arts store will have them.
Good Luck
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Chinese "gi's"?
These are typically called "Kung Fu Uniforms".
You can google that and find 100's of online suppliers.
www.awma.com has a decent selection.
If you live in a major city, I'm sure you can find a martial arts supply store that carries them locally in your yellow pages.
James
Reply:Any martial arts store will have them dude
Reply:http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8%26amp;...
Reply:Its called a Sam. Any Martial Arts store will have them.
Good Luck
Reply:http://www.martialartssupermarket.com/in...
http://www.martialmart.com/kunfuunandac....
http://www.martialartsmart.net/Uniforms_...
http://www.martialartssupplies.com/kungf...
http://www.kungfu4less.com/kfw.html
These are some good places to order from.
The conclusion on why boxers can pick a part a martial artisit?
now on my first 2 posts i dont think people actualy get the message on what im trying to say
i am a martial artist, and i used to do boxing. im sayinjg that styles that consider themselves as martial just because they do some katas and chreographed dance moves they think they can beat anyone
im not saying forms aernt good, they are as they help with sparing and the tactics u recive but most karate schools, do katas but no sparring so whats the point! in even learing,
im not disrespecting the japanese martial arts,
i think they are great, but karate just puts it down,
styles like shotokan, gojo ryu, wado ryu.
kuokushin is good.
im not being a hypocrite, as even the chinese martial arts need to get thire act together, as there are some realy crap styles out there.
the reason i chose the boxer is that they are very fast with thire hands and im sure it can beat those crapy forms of karate
thanks for awnsering the 3 questions i posted
The conclusion on why boxers can pick a part a martial artisit?
You write so unintelligibly I couldn't understand any of your three questions.
Reply:I'm not sure what your question is but It sounds like your saying boxers are better fighters than martial artists. But isn't a boxer a better fighter if he is also trained in the martial arts? My point is that the best fighters know many styles . If a boxer doesn't know anything except boxing he is in big trouble once he gets taken to the ground. All his boxing skill is useless when he's on his back. He had better know at least some basic wrestling or submission holds. Most fighters start on there feet and a skilled boxer is going to do pretty good as long as he is standing but more often than not an opponent can smother those punches and force that boxer to the ground. I do agree with you that katas ere for show only and most of that shown in a kata would be ineffective in a real fight.
Reply:The thing is that boxers train to, well, box. It's a practical application intensive fighting art. In fact, if memory serves, I believe that Muhammad Ali took on and beat a kickboxer in an exhibition bout, and quite frankly when I hear UFC guys say that they would all destroy a straight boxer I have to scoff a bit, especially if you dropped a Frazier/Foreman (70s Foreman)/or Larry Holmes in there with the 4 oz gloves.
Secondly, about katas, or forms: Many kata or forms in Chinese arts (and in Japanese arts) are a method to teach applications or combinations. The relationship is similar between physics and engineering: one is heavier on theory than other, and one is rooted more in using principles of science to do things in the real world. The things about katas is that they are open ended of sorts, in that each one's somewhat vague motions can be interpereted into something totally different, and incredibly effective as well. Further, "the chinese arts need to get their act together," well.......the thing is they have been taught that way for a loooong time, and are known to be effective (Two words: Shaolin Temple) in both pedagogy and in increasing coordination, and also encouraging a creative and interperetive mindset when it comes to studying an art. Things are still done that way, in essence, because it works, just as western boxing and wrestling are taught because they work, but you may not see a sense of instant gratification in it, so I think that may be a factor.
Reply:Any fighting full contact is the key since it teaches a general common sense and understanding of bodies to move in the right way.
Which is why fencing masters of the medieval period as funny as it sounds required their students to do wrestling at the same time.
They even say in their books a good basis in wrestling or boxing is a great basis for a student of the sword.
The problem with 99% of martial arts is they are no longer moving properly.
That is where their problems start right there and why they mostly get their *** kicked on the street fighting drunk bums who just swing like hell. I have seen it all my life.
Reply:You are pointing out a difference in TRAINING not in styles.
Boxers do HARD sparring, and a boxer who has been hit will have an advantage over a martial artist who has NOT been hit.
But - a martial artist who trains hard sparring (like kyokushin knock down or mma or such) and HAS been hit hard will equalize THAT factor, and then the additional skills on the ground will come into play.
I was watching my copy of UFC-2 (remember? when NO ONE's art was "mixed"?) and I saw a fight with Fred Ettish - very skilled and polished karate school owner. He took the correct stance. He flicked his kicks out perfectly. And the first punch he got hit with, he crumpled - because it was obvious he had never done hard sparring.
Conversely, Royce ate up all the kickboxers, b/c they were useless on the ground.
Reply:Boxing has an advantage over other martial arts, that is when you train boxing, your physical aspect is one of the most important thing. Just see all the professional boxers, they are big and muscular. Another advantage is because you only train your fists so that it becomes very focused on it and boxing spars A LOT. However if you fight an experienced Karate guy, he can defeat you by using sweeps, takedowns, etc that is not practiced in boxing. But it's 100% for sure you would defeat anyone training in a Karate McDojo ( Martial arts school where the instructor teaches for lots of $$$, usually there are no sparring in this school just plain forms and board breaking). Just go to Japan, challenge some Karatekas and see how you think, since in Asia there are only few McDojos unlike in America.
Reply:I understand your point, but it's kind of a spurious question.
Boxers usually spend a lot more time training conditioning than do most martial artists. This has to do with a lot of people who think all they need to do is learn the correct 'technique' and that they will then be set for life. Technique without practice is nothing, of course.
Most martial artists today don't spend that much time on physical conditioning and can spend a few hours a week on training at best. So, of course, they're at a disadvantage against a boxer who makes it his full-time job. But against an amateur boxer who may not have that much combat experience either, that wouldn't necessarily the case.
If you really wanted to compare martial arts in this way, the boxer would have to be compared with the samurai of old, who took their whole training just as seriously and were, in effect professionals.
I don't see this as a question of boxing vs martial arts at all. It's just a question of how much dedication and effort people put in it. Boxing training happens to be more involved most of the time. But get one of those guys that spends five days a week at the dojo and it would be another matter.
Reply:I believe what your experiencing is the large amount of McDojoe's to real Martial Arts schools. And you must remember most people who box are into the idea of winning by getting the best of their opponent or a KO. Many student of martial arts schools are there just there for the purpose of self development. This doesn't mean that the serious martial arts student isn't formidable Just that there are not the majority of students, and that is too bad.
Don't give up your training. I was talking to one of our best students last night who is a boxer and is cross training. He said "it is helping his boxing in a huge way"
Reply:"now on my first 2 posts i dont think people actualy get the message on what im trying to say"
actually it sounds like you didn't get the point, its actually very plain and simple: it has nothing to do with style, it has to do with learning application, which means training realistically.
some arts train realistically but under an incomplete ruleset (boxing, muai thai, judo) and some arts train under a completely unrealistic rule set so that even training with resistance doesn't make it good training (point sparring- usually TKD).
doing katas is a waste of time (except in beginning weapons training). Doing isolated movements to learn power generation and proper structure and form (the equivalent of shadow-boxing in boxing) is of high value.
"i am a martial artist, and i used to do boxing. im sayinjg that styles that consider themselves as martial just because they do some katas and chreographed dance moves they think they can beat anyone"
I used to do boxing as well, that is what gives me a realistic approach to what a person really coming at you with hand skills would look like.
"im not saying forms aernt good, they are as they help with sparing and the tactics u recive but most karate schools, do katas but no sparring so whats the point! in even learing,"
I'm saying they are not (see above) except in certain forms of weapon training where learning to strike properly is also dependant on learning to move with your weapon and get used to what is otherwise a very unnatural and awkward feeling.
"im not disrespecting the japanese martial arts,
i think they are great, but karate just puts it down,
styles like shotokan, gojo ryu, wado ryu.
kuokushin is good."
again, you missed the point, it isn't about "karate" or "shotokan". it is about how realistically you train. some arts are more likely to train realistically than others and have a reputation for bieng so.
"im not being a hypocrite, as even the chinese martial arts need to get thire act together, as there are some realy crap styles out there."
yes, yes they do, and I dont' think it is the crap style, just crap teachers and crap schools that don't train realistically. you think tai chi was originally intended to be for old geezers to waste an afternoon in the park between episodes of golden girls?
I picked up a few things from someone who really knows how to apply tai chi and what I learned helped me improve my throws and bieng able to "move" another person.from what I've seen most teachers only teach the "soft" component of tai chi, not how to apply it because they don't know. this was all done with full resistance and in one case I was even able to apply it in cross-training (I don't throw much).
"the reason i chose the boxer is that they are very fast with thire hands and im sure it can beat those crapy forms of karate"
yes, a boxer CAN be very fast with thier hands, however, again it is more likely than not the fact that they have trained realistically while the karateka probably has not (although karate is more likely to than the bad three- aikido, tkd and CMA- styles that are difficult to find realistic training because they are oversaturated with crappy schools).
do you really think that a person from a "cardio boxing" class (the equvalent of tae bo) is training realistically and can apply that to real fighting? hell no.
"thanks for awnsering the 3 questions i posted"
no problem. I really hope you realize that it is not so much the style but resistance training and realistic training that makes the difference.
and by resistance I don't mean chi sau or push hands. If thats all you are doing, you are missing the point.
Reply:This issue was solved back in 1968 when Aaron Banks held his mixed martial arts exhibition in Madison Square Garden where he pitted boxers against Judoka; Karateka against Judoka; Karateka against boxers; etc. etc.
It was discovered that it was the skill of the participant and not the style which resulted in victory. Thus a mediocre boxer would lose to a good Judo player and a mediocre Judo player would lose to a good boxer and so on and so forth.
Yet it is my opinon that some martial art styles are inferior to others regardless of the practitioner (but I will not mention these).
I have always had the highest regard for Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and Chinese Kung fu; they are very deadly and effective. While boxing is very good, it doesn't teach defense against weapons, or weapons usage, or defense against multiple attacks. This is one reason why it takes a very long time to become proficient in the Asian martial arts.
Reply:put in a muay thai boxer and a boxer in a ring. no rules. see who's the more dimensional fighter- and who's just more sick in the head and can do the most fatal damage.
Reply:Someone touched on the "rules" aspect but I'd like to expand further. Regardless of matchup, there are always rules of behavior. What's an appropriate target and what isn't. A number of martial arts, including Kenpo, teach that everything is an acceptable target: eyes, throat, ears, groin, knees, etc. An aggressor will quickly lose interest in the fight if he's blind, can't breath or his knee has been kicked out. My point is that when evaluating effectiveness of a style, you must consider that imposing rules may change the essential character of the style. On the street, there's no such thing as fighting dirty, only surviving and being the least hurt.
Reply:This is a redundant question. And you seem very narrow minded in your view of martial arts. Maybe its because you haven't trained in other styles or your failure to investigate to find out the differences between them. When you say " a martial artist" do you mean any martial artist? Or are you picking on one particular art? Because I've personally seen Muay thai guys destroy pure boxers. You need to properly format your question and be specific as to what you really want to know. You questions are very vague and the answers vary too much to get to the point of what your looking for.
Reply:A good jab is hard to defend and some boxes jab like a mule ... that is why
Reply:No. Jui Jitsu more better then boxing. I understand your point, a boxer is actually training to fight where as a lot of martial arts they do not actually go at it all the time like a boxer. But I thought the point of a lot of martial arts is to defend yourself and not really to beat people up. Personally I would take a boxer fighting in a gym everyday over a guy doing karate but not really sparring all the time, but i would also easily take a Muay Thai fighter over that boxer or grappler like submission grappling like jui jitsu over both.
i am a martial artist, and i used to do boxing. im sayinjg that styles that consider themselves as martial just because they do some katas and chreographed dance moves they think they can beat anyone
im not saying forms aernt good, they are as they help with sparing and the tactics u recive but most karate schools, do katas but no sparring so whats the point! in even learing,
im not disrespecting the japanese martial arts,
i think they are great, but karate just puts it down,
styles like shotokan, gojo ryu, wado ryu.
kuokushin is good.
im not being a hypocrite, as even the chinese martial arts need to get thire act together, as there are some realy crap styles out there.
the reason i chose the boxer is that they are very fast with thire hands and im sure it can beat those crapy forms of karate
thanks for awnsering the 3 questions i posted
The conclusion on why boxers can pick a part a martial artisit?
You write so unintelligibly I couldn't understand any of your three questions.
Reply:I'm not sure what your question is but It sounds like your saying boxers are better fighters than martial artists. But isn't a boxer a better fighter if he is also trained in the martial arts? My point is that the best fighters know many styles . If a boxer doesn't know anything except boxing he is in big trouble once he gets taken to the ground. All his boxing skill is useless when he's on his back. He had better know at least some basic wrestling or submission holds. Most fighters start on there feet and a skilled boxer is going to do pretty good as long as he is standing but more often than not an opponent can smother those punches and force that boxer to the ground. I do agree with you that katas ere for show only and most of that shown in a kata would be ineffective in a real fight.
Reply:The thing is that boxers train to, well, box. It's a practical application intensive fighting art. In fact, if memory serves, I believe that Muhammad Ali took on and beat a kickboxer in an exhibition bout, and quite frankly when I hear UFC guys say that they would all destroy a straight boxer I have to scoff a bit, especially if you dropped a Frazier/Foreman (70s Foreman)/or Larry Holmes in there with the 4 oz gloves.
Secondly, about katas, or forms: Many kata or forms in Chinese arts (and in Japanese arts) are a method to teach applications or combinations. The relationship is similar between physics and engineering: one is heavier on theory than other, and one is rooted more in using principles of science to do things in the real world. The things about katas is that they are open ended of sorts, in that each one's somewhat vague motions can be interpereted into something totally different, and incredibly effective as well. Further, "the chinese arts need to get their act together," well.......the thing is they have been taught that way for a loooong time, and are known to be effective (Two words: Shaolin Temple) in both pedagogy and in increasing coordination, and also encouraging a creative and interperetive mindset when it comes to studying an art. Things are still done that way, in essence, because it works, just as western boxing and wrestling are taught because they work, but you may not see a sense of instant gratification in it, so I think that may be a factor.
Reply:Any fighting full contact is the key since it teaches a general common sense and understanding of bodies to move in the right way.
Which is why fencing masters of the medieval period as funny as it sounds required their students to do wrestling at the same time.
They even say in their books a good basis in wrestling or boxing is a great basis for a student of the sword.
The problem with 99% of martial arts is they are no longer moving properly.
That is where their problems start right there and why they mostly get their *** kicked on the street fighting drunk bums who just swing like hell. I have seen it all my life.
Reply:You are pointing out a difference in TRAINING not in styles.
Boxers do HARD sparring, and a boxer who has been hit will have an advantage over a martial artist who has NOT been hit.
But - a martial artist who trains hard sparring (like kyokushin knock down or mma or such) and HAS been hit hard will equalize THAT factor, and then the additional skills on the ground will come into play.
I was watching my copy of UFC-2 (remember? when NO ONE's art was "mixed"?) and I saw a fight with Fred Ettish - very skilled and polished karate school owner. He took the correct stance. He flicked his kicks out perfectly. And the first punch he got hit with, he crumpled - because it was obvious he had never done hard sparring.
Conversely, Royce ate up all the kickboxers, b/c they were useless on the ground.
Reply:Boxing has an advantage over other martial arts, that is when you train boxing, your physical aspect is one of the most important thing. Just see all the professional boxers, they are big and muscular. Another advantage is because you only train your fists so that it becomes very focused on it and boxing spars A LOT. However if you fight an experienced Karate guy, he can defeat you by using sweeps, takedowns, etc that is not practiced in boxing. But it's 100% for sure you would defeat anyone training in a Karate McDojo ( Martial arts school where the instructor teaches for lots of $$$, usually there are no sparring in this school just plain forms and board breaking). Just go to Japan, challenge some Karatekas and see how you think, since in Asia there are only few McDojos unlike in America.
Reply:I understand your point, but it's kind of a spurious question.
Boxers usually spend a lot more time training conditioning than do most martial artists. This has to do with a lot of people who think all they need to do is learn the correct 'technique' and that they will then be set for life. Technique without practice is nothing, of course.
Most martial artists today don't spend that much time on physical conditioning and can spend a few hours a week on training at best. So, of course, they're at a disadvantage against a boxer who makes it his full-time job. But against an amateur boxer who may not have that much combat experience either, that wouldn't necessarily the case.
If you really wanted to compare martial arts in this way, the boxer would have to be compared with the samurai of old, who took their whole training just as seriously and were, in effect professionals.
I don't see this as a question of boxing vs martial arts at all. It's just a question of how much dedication and effort people put in it. Boxing training happens to be more involved most of the time. But get one of those guys that spends five days a week at the dojo and it would be another matter.
Reply:I believe what your experiencing is the large amount of McDojoe's to real Martial Arts schools. And you must remember most people who box are into the idea of winning by getting the best of their opponent or a KO. Many student of martial arts schools are there just there for the purpose of self development. This doesn't mean that the serious martial arts student isn't formidable Just that there are not the majority of students, and that is too bad.
Don't give up your training. I was talking to one of our best students last night who is a boxer and is cross training. He said "it is helping his boxing in a huge way"
Reply:"now on my first 2 posts i dont think people actualy get the message on what im trying to say"
actually it sounds like you didn't get the point, its actually very plain and simple: it has nothing to do with style, it has to do with learning application, which means training realistically.
some arts train realistically but under an incomplete ruleset (boxing, muai thai, judo) and some arts train under a completely unrealistic rule set so that even training with resistance doesn't make it good training (point sparring- usually TKD).
doing katas is a waste of time (except in beginning weapons training). Doing isolated movements to learn power generation and proper structure and form (the equivalent of shadow-boxing in boxing) is of high value.
"i am a martial artist, and i used to do boxing. im sayinjg that styles that consider themselves as martial just because they do some katas and chreographed dance moves they think they can beat anyone"
I used to do boxing as well, that is what gives me a realistic approach to what a person really coming at you with hand skills would look like.
"im not saying forms aernt good, they are as they help with sparing and the tactics u recive but most karate schools, do katas but no sparring so whats the point! in even learing,"
I'm saying they are not (see above) except in certain forms of weapon training where learning to strike properly is also dependant on learning to move with your weapon and get used to what is otherwise a very unnatural and awkward feeling.
"im not disrespecting the japanese martial arts,
i think they are great, but karate just puts it down,
styles like shotokan, gojo ryu, wado ryu.
kuokushin is good."
again, you missed the point, it isn't about "karate" or "shotokan". it is about how realistically you train. some arts are more likely to train realistically than others and have a reputation for bieng so.
"im not being a hypocrite, as even the chinese martial arts need to get thire act together, as there are some realy crap styles out there."
yes, yes they do, and I dont' think it is the crap style, just crap teachers and crap schools that don't train realistically. you think tai chi was originally intended to be for old geezers to waste an afternoon in the park between episodes of golden girls?
I picked up a few things from someone who really knows how to apply tai chi and what I learned helped me improve my throws and bieng able to "move" another person.from what I've seen most teachers only teach the "soft" component of tai chi, not how to apply it because they don't know. this was all done with full resistance and in one case I was even able to apply it in cross-training (I don't throw much).
"the reason i chose the boxer is that they are very fast with thire hands and im sure it can beat those crapy forms of karate"
yes, a boxer CAN be very fast with thier hands, however, again it is more likely than not the fact that they have trained realistically while the karateka probably has not (although karate is more likely to than the bad three- aikido, tkd and CMA- styles that are difficult to find realistic training because they are oversaturated with crappy schools).
do you really think that a person from a "cardio boxing" class (the equvalent of tae bo) is training realistically and can apply that to real fighting? hell no.
"thanks for awnsering the 3 questions i posted"
no problem. I really hope you realize that it is not so much the style but resistance training and realistic training that makes the difference.
and by resistance I don't mean chi sau or push hands. If thats all you are doing, you are missing the point.
Reply:This issue was solved back in 1968 when Aaron Banks held his mixed martial arts exhibition in Madison Square Garden where he pitted boxers against Judoka; Karateka against Judoka; Karateka against boxers; etc. etc.
It was discovered that it was the skill of the participant and not the style which resulted in victory. Thus a mediocre boxer would lose to a good Judo player and a mediocre Judo player would lose to a good boxer and so on and so forth.
Yet it is my opinon that some martial art styles are inferior to others regardless of the practitioner (but I will not mention these).
I have always had the highest regard for Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and Chinese Kung fu; they are very deadly and effective. While boxing is very good, it doesn't teach defense against weapons, or weapons usage, or defense against multiple attacks. This is one reason why it takes a very long time to become proficient in the Asian martial arts.
Reply:put in a muay thai boxer and a boxer in a ring. no rules. see who's the more dimensional fighter- and who's just more sick in the head and can do the most fatal damage.
Reply:Someone touched on the "rules" aspect but I'd like to expand further. Regardless of matchup, there are always rules of behavior. What's an appropriate target and what isn't. A number of martial arts, including Kenpo, teach that everything is an acceptable target: eyes, throat, ears, groin, knees, etc. An aggressor will quickly lose interest in the fight if he's blind, can't breath or his knee has been kicked out. My point is that when evaluating effectiveness of a style, you must consider that imposing rules may change the essential character of the style. On the street, there's no such thing as fighting dirty, only surviving and being the least hurt.
Reply:This is a redundant question. And you seem very narrow minded in your view of martial arts. Maybe its because you haven't trained in other styles or your failure to investigate to find out the differences between them. When you say " a martial artist" do you mean any martial artist? Or are you picking on one particular art? Because I've personally seen Muay thai guys destroy pure boxers. You need to properly format your question and be specific as to what you really want to know. You questions are very vague and the answers vary too much to get to the point of what your looking for.
Reply:A good jab is hard to defend and some boxes jab like a mule ... that is why
Reply:No. Jui Jitsu more better then boxing. I understand your point, a boxer is actually training to fight where as a lot of martial arts they do not actually go at it all the time like a boxer. But I thought the point of a lot of martial arts is to defend yourself and not really to beat people up. Personally I would take a boxer fighting in a gym everyday over a guy doing karate but not really sparring all the time, but i would also easily take a Muay Thai fighter over that boxer or grappler like submission grappling like jui jitsu over both.
My uncle said that Americans think that every Chinese who visits their country all knows martial arts?
is it really true?
My uncle said that Americans think that every Chinese who visits their country all knows martial arts?
It's true that most Americans think all Chinese knows martial arts. It's call stereotype. It's also call marketing... as most Americans seem to like watching crappy kung fu art films.
Reply:Either that or how to make a good stir fry.
Reply:no, but that would be awesome if they all busted a move at the same time!
Reply:If thats true we are all in a world of sh*t
Reply:Is it really true that I have heard that all Chinese are taught at a very early age the martial arts as a life lesson along with language ?
Reply:no
Reply:I don't think so. I think that would be idiots who believed that. That doesn't make any sense. But I guess to each his own.
Reply:No!!!
Reply:in an area with alot of Chinese people, like california, then no, it's not true.
Reply:Tell your Uncle that he can take a hike.....what a stupid stereotype. I suppose that he walks around with an American flag too right?
My uncle said that Americans think that every Chinese who visits their country all knows martial arts?
It's true that most Americans think all Chinese knows martial arts. It's call stereotype. It's also call marketing... as most Americans seem to like watching crappy kung fu art films.
Reply:Either that or how to make a good stir fry.
Reply:no, but that would be awesome if they all busted a move at the same time!
Reply:If thats true we are all in a world of sh*t
Reply:Is it really true that I have heard that all Chinese are taught at a very early age the martial arts as a life lesson along with language ?
Reply:no
Reply:I don't think so. I think that would be idiots who believed that. That doesn't make any sense. But I guess to each his own.
Reply:No!!!
Reply:in an area with alot of Chinese people, like california, then no, it's not true.
Reply:Tell your Uncle that he can take a hike.....what a stupid stereotype. I suppose that he walks around with an American flag too right?
All these amazing martial arts we are watching at the Chinese movies is real?
Alot of the older movies all the marital arts are real, unfortunately through the "magic" of Hollywood much of the fights are done with wires (like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon) and its loses its luster. None of the fights are actually REAL fights, they are choreographed like a dance, much like the WWE wrestling. Only the acting is better and steriods arent present LOL.
All these amazing martial arts we are watching at the Chinese movies is real?
Bruce Lee was a real and a gifted fighter.
The fight between him and Chuck Norris in Enter The Dragon is worth watching -- as are all his movies
Reply:There are real martial arts and techniques being displayed in the movies but they are not real fights.
Reply:older movies might have been more "real" using no cgi, probably not speeding up the videos, n wirework etc...compared to todays'. however they are choreographed therefore the techniques would probably not work in a real fight
Reply:A lot of the moves in the older Chinese movies are straight from the traditional forms often with exaggerated stuff mixed in (like the gravity defying 10 foot vertical leaps, somersaults and cartwheels...etc).
Reply:Yes and no. If they would do real martial arts, people would get killed, but many directors are aware of martial arts traditions and try to keep martial scenes as realistic and honest to style as possible. So, if a movie says it's doing snake style kung fu, it is definitely taking aspects of traditional snake style.
Reply:i belive alot of those styles is known as,wire fu...using wires to do impossible moves......
tho i belvei some are used to soem extent..like elektra,they usaed muai thai,shotokan and wu shu
All these amazing martial arts we are watching at the Chinese movies is real?
Bruce Lee was a real and a gifted fighter.
The fight between him and Chuck Norris in Enter The Dragon is worth watching -- as are all his movies
Reply:There are real martial arts and techniques being displayed in the movies but they are not real fights.
Reply:older movies might have been more "real" using no cgi, probably not speeding up the videos, n wirework etc...compared to todays'. however they are choreographed therefore the techniques would probably not work in a real fight
Reply:A lot of the moves in the older Chinese movies are straight from the traditional forms often with exaggerated stuff mixed in (like the gravity defying 10 foot vertical leaps, somersaults and cartwheels...etc).
Reply:Yes and no. If they would do real martial arts, people would get killed, but many directors are aware of martial arts traditions and try to keep martial scenes as realistic and honest to style as possible. So, if a movie says it's doing snake style kung fu, it is definitely taking aspects of traditional snake style.
Reply:i belive alot of those styles is known as,wire fu...using wires to do impossible moves......
tho i belvei some are used to soem extent..like elektra,they usaed muai thai,shotokan and wu shu
In Martial Arts, would it be better to learn Viatnamese, Korean, Chinese, or Japanese?
Which is better, for the variety of Martial Arts?
Thanks.
In Martial Arts, would it be better to learn Viatnamese, Korean, Chinese, or Japanese?
Depends on where your particular martial art came from.
Though I suppose I should mention that Japanese is by far the easiest to learn, with Korean of a higher difficulty and Chinese on a "omfg who would be crazy enough to even try" difficulty level.
Reply:Lets see you still say that after a week of Mandarin study. Report It
Reply:This is a hard question. I have done Korean and I am a black belt at it. I am now doing Japanese and I am close to my black belt in that. I study an art called Akido. I feel, it is better then Korean. I like it because it has a lot to do with the body mechanics. I think it is neat to know about what your body does and how you can stop someone. I can not say anything about Vietnamese and Chinese since I have not done those kinds of martial arts. I have done martial arts for 9 years. I love it. It is great exercise and it helps you if you are in trouble later on. I hope I helped.
Reply:okinowan
Reply:I guess that japanese is the easiest to learn, while korean and vietnamese are harder, and chinese is totally hard and you need to be realy dedicated to it...
azalea
Thanks.
In Martial Arts, would it be better to learn Viatnamese, Korean, Chinese, or Japanese?
Depends on where your particular martial art came from.
Though I suppose I should mention that Japanese is by far the easiest to learn, with Korean of a higher difficulty and Chinese on a "omfg who would be crazy enough to even try" difficulty level.
Reply:Lets see you still say that after a week of Mandarin study. Report It
Reply:This is a hard question. I have done Korean and I am a black belt at it. I am now doing Japanese and I am close to my black belt in that. I study an art called Akido. I feel, it is better then Korean. I like it because it has a lot to do with the body mechanics. I think it is neat to know about what your body does and how you can stop someone. I can not say anything about Vietnamese and Chinese since I have not done those kinds of martial arts. I have done martial arts for 9 years. I love it. It is great exercise and it helps you if you are in trouble later on. I hope I helped.
Reply:okinowan
Reply:I guess that japanese is the easiest to learn, while korean and vietnamese are harder, and chinese is totally hard and you need to be realy dedicated to it...
azalea
Does anybody know if the chinese martial art Xing Yi is really effective in an actual fight?
All martial arts were created for fighting. So yes it would obviously have benefits in self defence. But martial arts are learned so we don't have to fight. If that's what you want then go to a boxing club.
Does anybody know if the chinese martial art Xing Yi is really effective in an actual fight?
Of course all the martial arts are self defensive and is usually used for protection as per martial ethics. One should be perfect
in the said martial arts then only one can experience its effectiveness during actual fight. Martial arts is an art of fighting
may be Xing Yi where in movements are born out of mind dictating physique. One has to be of GYMNASTIC built physical
body.
Reply:I went to www.youtube.com and watched about 6 different clips. Here's what I have to say:
-I notice they leave their hands really low which leave head in wide open, perfect for haymaker (most common weapon use in street) which is worse thing to do.
-Their block require large long swing which mean it take more time than quick short straight punch.
-They use same attack repeatly and their form are too repeating, not a good thing against a smart fighter.
-Their punch (if that's what forward thrusting open palm are) are horrible! Very little force behind it and very slow and too repeative. Also it leave side wide open for a kick.
-They seems to rely on you leave your arm for them to counter. In actual fight people usually don't leave their arm linger around for you to counter.
-They seems to have some okay throw. but I wouldn't rely on their throw to end fight in most case.
So... you can decide for yourself. Personally I wouldn't take it.
Reply:Depends on your teacher. Like all chinese martial arts 99.9% of all teachers and schools are crap. CMAs have this problem along with aikido and TKD.
Most xing yi unfortunately IS like the videos that ninedemons saw on youtube. the crap posted on youtube is just ritualized dancing. Take that stuff and your *** WILL be handed to you in a fight.
HOWEVER- real xing yi, operates like a close range striking art (it looks like striking from grappling range). The concepts shown on youtube are just drills, the problem is that teachers teach these drills (often beginner level drills in a real fighting class) as the be all end all of the system. They focus too much on the forms and not on how to apply them.
Xing yi practitioners learn to develop power much similar to a boxer. From the legs, shoulders, body then the arm. However just learning these nancy boy drills that most teachers teach, you will not learn to apply this and will not be able to fight with the art.
The blocks and strikes you see on youtube are not the way you would block in xing yi. you are basically supposed to keep your arms close to your body at all times. and while palms are used, it is not with the arm fully extended. If you are learning that or seeing that it is wrong. xing yi is about breaking down (or through) your opponent's guard, this is never possible with an extended arm as you have less power.
xing yi is in fact a rare art, bieng such it might be easier to find a good teacher than most other cmas, but still most of the teachers unfortunately do teach the kind of crap you see on youtube. Go there to see what NOT to learn.
Depending on your goals, xing yi is a striking art, even though it is done at grappling range, I have a background in wrestling and because of the distance you strike at, xing yi actually combines very well with grappling and many strikes in xing yi can open your opponent to a lock, throw, etc. However finding a teacher that trains with resistance should be your primary goal.
If you are in doubt, or unable to find a good teacher then I would suggest a stlyle like muai thai because it is "self-tested" through competition. If you live in a big city, it would be easier to find one of these .1% teachers in CMAs, aikido or TKD but there are still loads of bad ones with false promises and false claims about thier "style".
You should go to www.bullshido.net and ask for specific school reccomendations or you can email me or any other member there and get some info on styles and such. CMAs are much harder to learn, not because they are, but because there are less good teachers out there. If you have doubts and it looks like ritualized dancing, run for the hills.
Yes, I spent 90% of the post shitting on crappy teachers. I pride myself on bieng the first to **** on a crappy cma teacher because they deserve it and shouldn't be teaching if they aren't going to do it right. same goes with aikido and tkd.
Reply:Xing Yi, though effective, is laborious and boring to learn for many. To be sure, it’s not a crowd-pleasing showy style. To most outsiders, the traditional Xing Yi forms all look too easy and repetitious with few variations and sure enough, the moves are simple enough to mimic superficially. However, it will take forever to master the myriad ways each move can be applied. Born of military ancestry, Xing Yi was meant to kill fast and punch through enemy frontlines in short order. Efficiency and practicality was the goal before it was refined into mind and body boxing of today. It's a very offensive minded martial art that doesn't fit many people's bill of self-defense, since you'll be hard pressed to find a purely defensive move in its repertoire from any of its sub-branches. Also, if you like pole arms, Xing Yi would be one of the best styles to pick up. Spear and halberd usage will melt seamlessly with your empty hand forms.
Here’s a small clip of some applications for a single type of Xing Yi basic punch “Pi.” http://www.hsing-i.com/pics/WPiApp.mpg
Reply:NO YOU WILL BE GROUNDED AND POUNDED EASILY
LEARN HOW TO WRESTLE
Reply:These Chinese arts were devised during wars, so yes, they would be effective and battle-tested (not something that can be said of most martial arts). During wars, the object of fighting was to kill. If you watch the youtube video, you can pick up the efficiency of the moves (low number of moves). There were no definite lines that differentiate defensive moves from offensive moves (the blocks also hit and the strikes also parry opponent's strikes). During war (way back then, at least), when armies charge at each other, combatants have to quickly finish off their opponents.
Does anybody know if the chinese martial art Xing Yi is really effective in an actual fight?
Of course all the martial arts are self defensive and is usually used for protection as per martial ethics. One should be perfect
in the said martial arts then only one can experience its effectiveness during actual fight. Martial arts is an art of fighting
may be Xing Yi where in movements are born out of mind dictating physique. One has to be of GYMNASTIC built physical
body.
Reply:I went to www.youtube.com and watched about 6 different clips. Here's what I have to say:
-I notice they leave their hands really low which leave head in wide open, perfect for haymaker (most common weapon use in street) which is worse thing to do.
-Their block require large long swing which mean it take more time than quick short straight punch.
-They use same attack repeatly and their form are too repeating, not a good thing against a smart fighter.
-Their punch (if that's what forward thrusting open palm are) are horrible! Very little force behind it and very slow and too repeative. Also it leave side wide open for a kick.
-They seems to rely on you leave your arm for them to counter. In actual fight people usually don't leave their arm linger around for you to counter.
-They seems to have some okay throw. but I wouldn't rely on their throw to end fight in most case.
So... you can decide for yourself. Personally I wouldn't take it.
Reply:Depends on your teacher. Like all chinese martial arts 99.9% of all teachers and schools are crap. CMAs have this problem along with aikido and TKD.
Most xing yi unfortunately IS like the videos that ninedemons saw on youtube. the crap posted on youtube is just ritualized dancing. Take that stuff and your *** WILL be handed to you in a fight.
HOWEVER- real xing yi, operates like a close range striking art (it looks like striking from grappling range). The concepts shown on youtube are just drills, the problem is that teachers teach these drills (often beginner level drills in a real fighting class) as the be all end all of the system. They focus too much on the forms and not on how to apply them.
Xing yi practitioners learn to develop power much similar to a boxer. From the legs, shoulders, body then the arm. However just learning these nancy boy drills that most teachers teach, you will not learn to apply this and will not be able to fight with the art.
The blocks and strikes you see on youtube are not the way you would block in xing yi. you are basically supposed to keep your arms close to your body at all times. and while palms are used, it is not with the arm fully extended. If you are learning that or seeing that it is wrong. xing yi is about breaking down (or through) your opponent's guard, this is never possible with an extended arm as you have less power.
xing yi is in fact a rare art, bieng such it might be easier to find a good teacher than most other cmas, but still most of the teachers unfortunately do teach the kind of crap you see on youtube. Go there to see what NOT to learn.
Depending on your goals, xing yi is a striking art, even though it is done at grappling range, I have a background in wrestling and because of the distance you strike at, xing yi actually combines very well with grappling and many strikes in xing yi can open your opponent to a lock, throw, etc. However finding a teacher that trains with resistance should be your primary goal.
If you are in doubt, or unable to find a good teacher then I would suggest a stlyle like muai thai because it is "self-tested" through competition. If you live in a big city, it would be easier to find one of these .1% teachers in CMAs, aikido or TKD but there are still loads of bad ones with false promises and false claims about thier "style".
You should go to www.bullshido.net and ask for specific school reccomendations or you can email me or any other member there and get some info on styles and such. CMAs are much harder to learn, not because they are, but because there are less good teachers out there. If you have doubts and it looks like ritualized dancing, run for the hills.
Yes, I spent 90% of the post shitting on crappy teachers. I pride myself on bieng the first to **** on a crappy cma teacher because they deserve it and shouldn't be teaching if they aren't going to do it right. same goes with aikido and tkd.
Reply:Xing Yi, though effective, is laborious and boring to learn for many. To be sure, it’s not a crowd-pleasing showy style. To most outsiders, the traditional Xing Yi forms all look too easy and repetitious with few variations and sure enough, the moves are simple enough to mimic superficially. However, it will take forever to master the myriad ways each move can be applied. Born of military ancestry, Xing Yi was meant to kill fast and punch through enemy frontlines in short order. Efficiency and practicality was the goal before it was refined into mind and body boxing of today. It's a very offensive minded martial art that doesn't fit many people's bill of self-defense, since you'll be hard pressed to find a purely defensive move in its repertoire from any of its sub-branches. Also, if you like pole arms, Xing Yi would be one of the best styles to pick up. Spear and halberd usage will melt seamlessly with your empty hand forms.
Here’s a small clip of some applications for a single type of Xing Yi basic punch “Pi.” http://www.hsing-i.com/pics/WPiApp.mpg
Reply:NO YOU WILL BE GROUNDED AND POUNDED EASILY
LEARN HOW TO WRESTLE
Reply:These Chinese arts were devised during wars, so yes, they would be effective and battle-tested (not something that can be said of most martial arts). During wars, the object of fighting was to kill. If you watch the youtube video, you can pick up the efficiency of the moves (low number of moves). There were no definite lines that differentiate defensive moves from offensive moves (the blocks also hit and the strikes also parry opponent's strikes). During war (way back then, at least), when armies charge at each other, combatants have to quickly finish off their opponents.
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